Polarized training

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Canute
Rosehip,

Swimming provides an interesting illustration of mindfulness because focus on breathing is so crucial. Focus on breathing is a key part of meditation. I am very aware of breathing when running. Awareness of my breathing when running is helpful because I perceive it as a soothing rhythm when running below the second ventilatory threshold, and as a powerful rhythm when running above that threshold.

However I swim rarely and I remain a poor swimmer partly because I have yet learn how to cope with the sensation of suffocation when my breathing is not well tuned to requirements.
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Rosehip
:)
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SPR
o I found this on Letsrun: letsrun.com

What was really funny though was this:

Note: LetsRun.com co-founder Robert Johnson wrote the foreword to this book which he enjoyed reading. However, errors were made in the editing process. Robert wants it known that he never approved the final draft of the foreword, never called the book “truly groundbreaking” and never offered a guarantee that “you will be completely convinced.” Given that he believes he was coached by the best coach in the country, John Kellogg, he also most definitely didn’t write, “I only wish this book had existed when I had been competing.” Mr. Kellogg was one of the few in the 1980s/90s who never forgot what Lydiard taught the world and was one of the leading disciples of spreading the high mileage message once the Internet took off. Johnson wanted to write the foreward to this book as it supports what he’d always been taught about training by Mr. Kellogg."
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Rosehip
oh

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11:35pm, 10 Nov 2014
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Canute
It is encouraging to see that Matt Fitzgerald has at last caught up with a long tradition established over fifty years ago by Lydiard, taken to the US by Bowerman soon afterwards, and in recent times, further developed by Brad Hudson, not to mention being the subject of multiple recent scientific studies reviewed in detail by Stephen Seiler and discussed on this thread Nonetheless, what Matt has to say about Paula Radcliffe’s VO2 max remaining virtually unchanged for many years is correct though I would interpret it a little differently.
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I have never found it easy to wear a HR monitor so the idea of how you are breathing is a good indicator of the right effort. I once went to a training day where we had to breath only through our nose, this ensures we keep to an easy effort. Not sure I could do this for the whole run but could do it every so often. Is this okay?
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Ultracat, during this weekends double marathon I only ever breathed in via my nose. If I had to breath through my mouth it would have meant I was running too fast!!!
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Just saw UC's comment about HRMs, and wanted to say that I've found the optical HRMs to be awesome to overcome this problem. I'm using the TomTom one at the moment, which has some flaws in other aspects; and there's also the Adidas miCoach one (again, some flaws in other aspects) - but in both cases, the HR measurement is fabulous, and so much nicer not to have to run with a strap. I think there's an Epson one out too (hoping to get a try on that soon), and no doubt other manufacturers will be jumping on it too.
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Drell
You can get wrist or armbands with optical HT sensors that use the Ant+ protocol, so will talk to your garmin. There's the Scosche Rhythm+ (the + is important) and the Mio link. See Badger's blog at http://www.fetcheveryone.com/blog-view.php?id=1684
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Ultracat
Thanks for the info regarding HRM, will need to research them, anyone recommend one? Just had a quick look and they get mixed reviews.

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Polarised training is a form of training that places emphasis on the two extremes of intensity. There is a large amount of low intensity training (comfortably below lactate threshold) and an appreciable minority of high intensity training (above LT).

Polarised training does also include some training near lactate threshold, but the amount of threshold training is modest, in contrast to the relatively high proportion of threshold running that is popular among some recreational runners.

Polarised training is not new. It has been used for many years by many elites and some recreational runners. However, it has attracted great interest in recent years for two reasons.

First, detailed reviews of the training of many elite endurance athletes confirms that they employ a polarised approach (typically 80% low intensity, 10% threshold and 10% high intensity. )

Secondly, several scientific studies have demonstrated that for well trained athletes who have reached a plateau of performance, polarised training produces greater gains in fitness and performance, than other forms of training such as threshold training on the one hand, or high volume, low intensity training on the other.

Much of the this evidence was reviewed by Stephen Seiler in a lecture delivered in Paris in 2013 .
vimeo.com

In case you cannot access that lecture by Seiler in 2013, here is a link to his more recent TED talk.

ted.com
This has less technical detail than his 2013 talk, but is nonetheless a very good introduction to the topic. It should be noted that from the historical perspective, Seiler shows a US bias.

Here is another useful video by Stephen Seiler in which he discusses the question of the optimum intensity and duration of low intensity sessions. Although the answer ‘depends on circumstances’ he proposes that a low intensity session should be long enough to reach the point where there are detectable indications of rising stress (either the beginning of upwards drift of HR or increased in perceived effort). If longer than this, there is increasing risk of damaging effects. A session shorter than this might not be enough to produce enough stress to achieve a useful training effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXc474Hu5U


The coach who probably deserves the greatest credit for emphasis on the value of low intensity training was Arthur Lydiard, who coached some of the great New Zealanders in the 1960's and Scandinavians in the 1970’s. One of his catch-phrases was 'train, don't strain'. However Lydiard never made it really clear what he meant by ‘quarter effort’. I have discussed Lydiard’s ideas on several occasions on my Wordpress blog. For example: canute1.wordpress.com

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