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Dvorak Apr 2018 11:49pm, 6 Apr 2018 15,791 posts	0 Dvorak And here's you, V'rap fetcheveryone.com/forum__3882__1127__heart_rate although maybe you had found yourself already ? I now also know that Nellers came to running originally (pre-Fetch) from a background in endurance canoeing. Which meant he was "too fit" and overdid it on the overuse side; and had a while out.
Velociraptor Apr 2018 12:30am, 7 Apr 2018 38,067 posts	0 Velociraptor Awww. Baby Nellers
steve45 Apr 2018 10:50am, 7 Apr 2018 2,478 posts	0 steve45 Good to see you're back to running struthious! We are the same age and I have runa lot of miles at paces based on my HR. My resting HR is a bit higher than yours (58-62) and my max (based on a HR test, something like some one has described above) is 168-172. I would find running at 130-135 bpm ok for steady running (and even up to 140) which is fine for periods of up to a couple of hours and according to some literature/methods is merely an energy efficient or recovery zone! If I'm running any slower than that then I'm "braking" and not flowing and then the risk of injury creeps in. It's in the higher zones where I sometimes run at 150 bpm when I'm flowing and feeling good that I try to make sure I don't over extend myself in what then is 80% effort and only do this at most once per week. However I ditch the HRM for most of the year because I don't want to always run according to the gadget and then I judge for myself what sort of effort I'm putting in. "Fetch" had a good HR method which was only divided into three zones: Easy/recovery run at 60-70% effort (for me up to 137bpm); Aerobic- 70-80% (137-148bpm for me) and Aerobic--80-90% effort( 148-159bpm for me). There's (or was) a thread on HR here on Fetch but I stopped bothering with it because it began to interfere with my basic enjoyment of running! All the stuff on there is sound advice however. I have to admit that I've eased back on running too often at the top end of my HR because I felt I needed to make sure I didn't keel over somewhere --out on the trials or far from home!
struthious Apr 2018 11:51am, 7 Apr 2018 992 posts	0 struthious Hi Steve, yes we are very similar heart rate wise and this alone is re-assuring to a newbie. I had been running at 220-age = max 155 and of course it was nonsense. Today I did my 5 miles at the new much higher rate 130-135 bpm which is much faster for an easy run for me and of course it was easy. The psychology of it is fabulous. Its never hard or a worry when the gadget (i'm a believer) says its easy pace. I'm like you in this also. I'll use it to find my current easy pace min/km and then forget about it for a few months and then do another check before my next mara in October. I'm slowly getting my skills together. I see you had rain today. Drought here these last 3 months though its threatening to turn cold. Tomorrow I'll take the last of the honey supers off my hives and plan says run 12km -easy as
phidip Apr 2018 12:10pm, 7 Apr 2018 99 posts	0 phidip Hi Struthious, 69 too and a newbie runner. Just began a year ago. I haven't really paid much attention to HRM but hope to learn more in the months ahead. Great that you keep bees!
Jovi Runner Apr 2018 8:22pm, 7 Apr 2018 5,290 posts	0 Jovi Runner My max HR is 170 in theory (220-50). However in a hard not full 5km effort is is usually around 180 & tops out at 198. If I ran at 70% I'd barely move as even when very fit even a slow plod sees my HR at 145.
Jovi Runner Apr 2018 8:39pm, 7 Apr 2018 5,291 posts	0 Jovi Runner My max HR is 170 in theory (220-50). However in a hard not full 5km effort is is usually around 180 & tops out at 198. If I ran at 70% I'd barely move as even when very fit even a slow plod sees my HR at 145.
Velociraptor Apr 2018 9:04pm, 7 Apr 2018 38,070 posts	0 Velociraptor We could have done with you on the Heart Rate thread at the point Dvorak linked on the TOTP post, Jovi Runner. (I suspect a lot of popcorn was consumed in Greater Fetchville for a few days, but Mr Huffman admitting that he'd made up his MHR was a bigger twist than anyone could have anticipated.)
Flatlander Apr 2018 9:14pm, 7 Apr 2018 1,097 posts	0 Flatlander I'm almost sorry I wasn't around when Mr Huffman was, it sounds as if it was an entertaining period (for the wrong reasons ;-)). Currently, and hopefully temporarily, my HR is restricting me to a jog of anywhere between 10:30 and 13:30mm, which is excruciatingly slow, and my movement is not all fluid which is so unnatural for me. I'm definitely built to run faster ;-)!
Velociraptor Apr 2018 9:28pm, 7 Apr 2018 38,071 posts	0 Velociraptor That thread was potentially quite destructive. The way RooA was treated was appalling. And Hellen before her, although Hellen's response to being the thread whipping-boy was to throw away her HRM and earn a GB vest.