Le Tour 2015

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Gobi Jul 2015 9:55pm, 28 Jul 2015 56,782 posts	0 Gobi I don't think they give young talent a proper chance. More sense to go to a less well financed team who want your talent and are prepared to risk you.
Cheg Jul 2015 10:12pm, 28 Jul 2015 361 posts	0 Cheg Didn't the Yates brothers get close to joining Sky?
Hertford Tiger Jul 2015 10:13pm, 28 Jul 2015 180 posts	0 Hertford Tiger Sky will suit some riders and not others. Discipline and a desire to work for the designated leader as only he can win. I can see why a number of people dislike them but they are successful except when the designated leader breaks a wrist or similar. I respect their achievements but find it difficult to really get behind the team.
Dai Bank Jul 2015 8:49am, 29 Jul 2015 4,216 posts	0 Dai Bank I,m sure I read somewhere that Sky only wanted Simon but they wanted to try and ride together so when Orica wanted them both, and with a decent programme, both brothers went there. It,s paid off too. Sky signed Edmondson but either Sky or he didn,t like the fit or thevplan. Reports suggested that Josh lacked discipline and oersonal organisation but he has won races since leaving. Sky seem to have killed off Nieve too. There,s a long history of BC and Sky wanting things done their way or it,s the highway. For some it works, and works well but cross them and you,re gone for ever. Of course their record suggests that they have it right and few can argue it has not been succesful but there,s a fair bit of wreckage left as a result.
Gobi Jul 2015 12:50pm, 29 Jul 2015 56,787 posts	0 Gobi Dowsett Downing Not given a chance
Nellers Jul 2015 1:34pm, 29 Jul 2015 29,908 posts	0 Nellers It's what happens in big teams in many sports though, isn't it? Sky isn't a charity. They aren't there just to develop talent. They are there to win stuff and get onthe telly. If their methods means that a small %age of their intake make it to the top and some of the others fall out of the system and don't succeed as a result then that's still a win for Team Sky. (Australia used to do similar things in many sports with their Australian Institute of Sport programmes. Hoover up the talent, train them hard, some make it and are great as a result, others break and fall away. The success is achieved, but not by all.) I'm not saying it's "good" but it is effective.
Cheg Jul 2015 1:37pm, 29 Jul 2015 362 posts	0 Cheg Nice Nellers. I concur your excellency.
Nellers Jul 2015 1:52pm, 29 Jul 2015 29,909 posts	0 Nellers And it doesn't make what Gobi says wrong. Quite the opposite. If I was a young talented cyclist right now (I wish!) I'd think long and hard before going to Sky. It ight work. I might be the next Chris Froome. Or I might be flipping burgers in MacDonalds 2 years later and never wanting to see a bike again.
rf_fozzy Jul 2015 2:25pm, 29 Jul 2015 7,054 posts	0 rf_fozzy Arguably that is why Sky supports British Cycling (i.e. the national set-up) and now also the Wiggins Team - to nuture that young talent on a national scale. Team Sky as a world pro team is set up to win major events, like GCs in grand tours....
Cheg Jul 2015 2:26pm, 29 Jul 2015 363 posts	0 Cheg I do love those made it didn't make it stories. Like the footballer who was better than Giggs aged 16 but never kicked on and is now a forklift driver in Runcorn.