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Oct 2018
9:48pm, 18 Oct 2018
33,240 posts
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Nellers
So I finally got Mitch the gym manager on site so I could get him to do the update on the PM5s tonight. Huge smiles as I've now got the ergdata set up and all the data downloading. Loving it!
4 x 2k tonight but I cocked up setting things going so I only got 3 x 2k recorded. SOrted for next time though.
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Oct 2018
12:09pm, 19 Oct 2018
187 posts
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Muttley
A steady 6500m this morning, as per The Plan. Gradually extending the distance on these. Put on the old-time ska playlist for some rocksteady riddims, brain into neutral, and away we go. Eased a little in the last 1500m to keep hr comfortably within bounds. A good session. Onwards.
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Oct 2018
11:11am, 20 Oct 2018
33,242 posts
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Nellers
5 x 2k this morning. Starting to feel more normal again being on the rower.
Starting to wonder about the stuff I'm getting from ErgData. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
So what's "normal" for drive length? I'm getting about 1.35m to 1.42ish. The only stuff I've been able to find about stroke length is really non-specific and just says it's relative to leg length, technique etc but that that having too long a drive length is also bad and may indicate reaching too far at the catch or leaning too far back at the end of the stroke.
So without a coach or any other input how do I know if a 1.35m is too long? Any clues?
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Oct 2018
11:40am, 20 Oct 2018
2,589 posts
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Mouseytongue
Not sure what's normal but my drive length varies from 1.33 - 1.48. I think focussing on technique with strong catch is the place to increase drive length rather than leaning back too far and bringing handle right up to your chin.
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Oct 2018
11:54am, 20 Oct 2018
33,243 posts
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Nellers
Agreed Mousey. Handle to lower chest and don't lean back too far.
My worry is that no-one watches my stroke and I get no feedback. It feels like I'm not leaning back too far or reaching for the catch but I don't really know. KNowing that you're getting similar drive length reassures me. Thanks.
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Oct 2018
12:22pm, 20 Oct 2018
2,590 posts
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Mouseytongue
I can't claim any expertise, but feel there is probably an acceptable drive length range, and we are probably both in it. Although I can hit 1.48 there is no way I could sustain that length through an entire piece, but feel I'm doing ok if consistently working in the 1.42 - 1.45 range. I think some drills concentrating on developing a strong catch would be a useful addition to a training program - something like a weekly bout of 30/30s with the damper set a bit higher than usual.
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Oct 2018
12:31pm, 20 Oct 2018
33,244 posts
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Nellers
It feels "normal" to me in that range. I've not tried any hard rowing yet since having ErgData though so maybe when I do I'll see a difference. Who knows?
I guess the test will be that when I do a hard rowing session, or up my stroke rate significantly, does my drive length reduce or increase or is the stroke technique solid enough to survive it? Watch this space.
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Oct 2018
10:53am, 21 Oct 2018
33,247 posts
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Nellers
Today was set as a steady 10k row. Started well, keeping pace outside 2.15s and s/m down to about 18. ABout half way through it my HR started to go up a little bit so I dropped the stroke rate to 16 and 17 to keep things under control.
Then when I got to 9km I realised I was close to doing 45 minutes, which would be nice, so I upped it a bit and started chasing the clock, which wasn't clever but it was fun. Finished on 45.06 but at 1.42 pace with a stroke rate of 34.
Not quite the controlled, steady row I had in mind but I did enjoy it.
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Oct 2018
8:09pm, 21 Oct 2018
2,591 posts
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Mouseytongue
Outstanding effort, Nellers and a strong finish. Did it feel reasonably comfortable?
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Oct 2018
8:18pm, 21 Oct 2018
33,248 posts
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Nellers
It felt very easy through to about 7k, then completely manageable through to 9k when I decided to hit the gas. After that it was.....err.......less so!
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