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Oranj Feb 2016 7:31pm, 29 Feb 2016 194 posts	Quote Pin Oranj Purely personally - I broke a toe in August 2014 (stubbed it on the end of the bed!), and was limited to grassland runs for the next 6 months as it was very sensitive (still is, in fact). Then someone recommended Hokas to me and although they seemed like a helluva price it was a revelation - loads of injury-free road and trail miles have followed. I find this rather confusing since I got on so badly with the heavily cushioned shoes of the 1980s (Nike Air Max, Adidas Oregon, and their ilk). There are a great many variations, and they all have various degrees of midsole resilience. Of the ones I've tried: Clifton: soft and very light, like a marshmallow racer Odyssey: very soft and slightly heavier than the Clifton. Challenger ATR: A Clifton2 with lugged "ATR" outsole. Like SM6 and Clifton2's above, I'm struggling to break them in (although I did run Country-to-Capital in them with no probs so they can't be that bad!) Stinson: More resilient than the Cliftons, really nice all-day cushioned comfort (If I was going to start with a pair, these'd be the ones) RapaNui: more resilient still, almost like a regular cushioned training shoe from Nike, Asics, etc. I've just bought some Bondi. Not been for a run in them yet. They look a bit of a cross between Stinson and RapaNui I have a few pairs of box-fresh Asics and Adidas in my cupboard, bought in the 2014 sales, that I've yet to run in
K5 Gus Feb 2016 7:31pm, 29 Feb 2016 1,689 posts	Quote Pin K5 Gus Pretty much that Lillaicha - do a 20 mile training run, and legs a lot less trashed the next day. All that cushioning does seem to help, and although the initial models were quite heavy compared to "normal" shoes, they are now using different midsole material in the newer models and they are just as light, if not lighter, than others.
Liliaicha Feb 2016 9:10pm, 29 Feb 2016 9,522 posts	Quote Pin Liliaicha Thanks for that guys. Think I might have tried the Stinsons and Rapa Nui about 3 or 4 years ago and didn't get on with them - so long ago, that I can't really remember why, but I think the Stinsons felt really 'high' and being very tall and skinny I felt like I looked like a golf club when wearing them (:-o) and I don't think the Rapa Nui toe box was wide enough for me. I wonder if they've changed in those 3 or 4 years? I might be prepared to have another go if I really think they might help my back.
jennywren Feb 2016 9:15pm, 29 Feb 2016 12,722 posts	Quote Pin jennywren I've got both the Huakas and the Clifton 1s. The Huakas are quite narrow (but I have narrow feet) but the Cliftons less so I think. They are nice but I'm finding them increasingly clumpy now I'm running better again and have just bought some On Clouds which I like much better. They are very shock absorbing but much more flexible than the Hokas I think.
Liliaicha Feb 2016 9:58pm, 29 Feb 2016 9,523 posts	Quote Pin Liliaicha On Clouds? Never heard of them, but they sound interesting!
nayan Mar 2016 7:19pm, 4 Mar 2016 49 posts	Quote Pin nayan I've done 800mi in my clifton2's and just bought some Vanquish2 to bring into rotation. The vanquish 2 toe box and upper feel nicer. Overall marginally heavier than the clifton 2 but even more cushioned. Exactly as others said they seem to help you absorb bigger mileage and reduce recovery times. The more mileage you are doing they seem handy
Ulric Oct 2016 4:53pm, 15 Oct 2016 370 posts	Quote Pin Ulric Are these shoes geared towards mid/forefoot strikers? Anyone who heel strikes running in them?
Oranj Oct 2016 5:17pm, 15 Oct 2016 356 posts	Quote Pin Oranj They mostly seem designed for heel strike. If you're a mid/forefoot runner, the lighter ones (like Clifton) don't have much outsole where you land/takeoff, you're essentially running on the "foam" and they get trashed pretty quickly - I only get 600km out my Cliftons and Odyssey. The models with a full length outsole last much longer - but then, of course, they are a little heavier.
Ulric Oct 2016 6:31pm, 15 Oct 2016 371 posts	Quote Pin Ulric Thanks, useful observations.
Fenland_Plodder Oct 2016 8:22pm, 15 Oct 2016 10,222 posts	Quote Pin Fenland_Plodder I bought some Clifton 2's in March and have PB'd and run course bests in them. The new versions are soooo much better than the originals.