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Fields
Fields
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How many of the characters who do this are being shown as role models?

Philip Marlowe is always smoking and drinking, is he someone to aspire to?
Oscar the Grouch
Oscar the Grouch
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Oscar the Grouch
I raise you a Sherlock Holmes...
Johnny Blaze
Johnny Blaze
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Johnny Blaze
I’m still reeling from the thought that James T Kirk in JJ Abrams’ reboot of Star Trek is actually the son of Thor Odinson and is therefore the heir apparent of Asgard.

Mind. Blown.
GregP
GregP
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12:22pm, 9 Jan 2024
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Pah. L.J. Gibbs in NCIS’s dad is also Seeley Booth‘s grandfather in Bones.
Nellers
Nellers
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12:28pm, 9 Jan 2024
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Doesn't that make Hannibal Lector Kirk's grandad? :-0
GregP
GregP
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Kirk? Used to be one of the best lawyers in Boston.
Big_G
Big_G
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Fields, there are probably hundreds of mainly likeable characters in films, who also drink. There are even whole films centred around the subject - Sideways comes immediately to mind (which I do enjoy). Pirates of the Caribbean is another one that came immediately to mind, where Jack Sparrow is basically a drunk. Films such as Shawshank, were at one point the prisoners win a crate of beer, after a hard day’s labour (“I'd only ask three beers apiece for my co-workers, if that seems fair. I think a man working outdoors feels more like a man if he can have a bottle of suds. That's only my opinion”). Godfather, where I think scotch is portrayed as a ‘man’s drink’, which is despite what people think may be the motives of the characters. When I was a boozer, I used to watch Godfather pretty much every year around Xmas time, and sink a few whiskys whilst watching it. These films came immediately to mind without much thought at all, and Shawshank and Godfather are up there with my personal favourite movies.

However, that is all besides my point. My point was that, for me personally, when I was stopping drinking, I really noticed the prevalence of alcohol everywhere, not just in film. I am not implying that they are bad films or that alcohol shouldn’t be featured in them or anything like that. I know that alcohol is often part of a story, and I’m fine with it. I’m just saying I noticed its presence more and more when I was trying to give up, and it was just a further point in relation to cigarettes in films that was mentioned in this thread.
Johnny Blaze
Johnny Blaze
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Yikes. Wheels within wheels.
Also, has anyone ever seen Doctor Strange and Khaaaaaaannnnnn! in the same room together?

Quite surprised that Thor didn't smack DS in the gob for trying to kill his son.
Little Nemo
Little Nemo
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Little Nemo
GregP - I've just finished The Dropout and I really enjoyed it!
larkim
larkim
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Surely, though, it's the case that most TV and film is not about "normality", it's usually more about people and situations that are out of the ordinary which is usually what makes the stories interesting.

With that caveat, alcohol alongside the non-normal situations could be argued to be part of the non-normality of it. I see a lot more murder in film and TV than I do in real life, for example :-)

That's not to dispute how those who have given up either easily or with difficulty would see it though, and how they experience seeing alcohol in that context. I suppose it's the same experience as when you've got a running injury, you start seeing runners everywhere.

And certainly some TV, particularly soaps, does at least make a pretence that what we are looking into is the "normal" world, despite the fact that it does then present a very abnormal world by most objective measures.

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