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Mar 2022
12:32pm, 2 Mar 2022
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paul the builder
Further I'd have thought that the demand for oxygen etc from a trained body, even at rest, would INCREASE, not decrease (more blood volume, more muscle mass etc).


Nellers I think this is the bit I disagree with. I'd expect your fitness would (slightly) extend in to regular inactive life too. Walking about needs less energy than it used to. Even sitting still probably too - if nothing else because your heart muscle has an easier time of it.
Mar 2022
12:54pm, 2 Mar 2022
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Dvorak
Could you link to the clip Nellers? I had a rummage on the net the other day and although I couldn't find quite was I was looking for, it could relate to increased capillarisation and hence tissue perfusion in trained individuals.
Mar 2022
1:53pm, 2 Mar 2022
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Nellers
The clip was this one:

https://youtu.be/ojzf8oL1Mko


Paul, I think you must be right but my thinking would have been along the lines that you've developed a greater ability to get oxygen in to the system (lung, heart, blood volume, capillaries etc) but you've also developed some more muscle mass. The requirement for oxygen at rest would be increased by that muscle mass (it burns more calories than fat tissue which presumably needs more oxygen) but would decrease as a proportion of your maximum capacity.

Seems I'm wrong.
Apr 2022
9:39am, 6 Apr 2022
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larkim
Just looking through graphs etc in the training log, I had a few queries about what the HR log was showing. Any help? Or should I submit these as feature requests / support tickets? Could just be me misunderstanding something!!

Apr 2022
10:33am, 6 Apr 2022
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GlennR
larkim, those colours relate to the zones, which you can change in settings.
Apr 2022
10:34am, 6 Apr 2022
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StuH
I think the blue line is the average beats-per-mile within those 5 bpm 'buckets'
Apr 2022
10:36am, 6 Apr 2022
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StuH
larkim, those colours relate to the zones, which you can change in settings.

Yes, but why is there red in the graph but none in the bar at the top?
Apr 2022
10:41am, 6 Apr 2022
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Brunski
If you’ve set yours up anything like mine your orange to red zone/banding will roughly correlate to your lactate turnpoint.

Looks to me as though you ran a pretty much perfect marathon there (effort wise), I think I quite often go out a little quick, get too near to that turnpoint and then can’t maintain pace and the HR drops a little at the end.

The one occasion I managed a similar graph to you was the virtual London marathon which is also my fastest time over 26.2 miles (or thereabouts allowing for GPS).
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Apr 2022
10:44am, 6 Apr 2022
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SPR
Change zone settings in account settings.
Apr 2022
12:17pm, 6 Apr 2022
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larkim
StuH has it right there - the oddity with the top section is that it is orange for 80+% yet in the HR graph (because my zones are properly set) there's a red section in the graph which doesn't seem to appear in that little bar.

I've set the bands up in Karvonnen bands (50,60,70,80,90% WHR) with RHR of 48 and max of 178 which are pretty kosher numbers, so there's nothing else to change in the zones - it's the visualisation at the top which is "wrong" (or just I'm not understanding it) and the bar chart on the right which is just a bit useless.

Average beats-per-mile makes a bit of sense, the absence of a legend though makes it a bit meaningless!

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

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A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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