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Nov 2021
9:47am, 3 Nov 2021
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Northern Exile
Steve, I agree - age is a monumental pain in the ass.

HR is such a subjective thing isn't it? My max HR has dropped about 1/2 beat per year over the past decade, I'm 60 very soon and think my max is around 178, however that ratio doesn't extend to performance - no way could I run at the comfortable paces that I used to.
Nov 2021
2:01pm, 3 Nov 2021
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steve45
17 years ago my max HR was 174 (checked by doing max HR test), I was 55 then. It's now 159 having used the same testing methods. Glad you agree about age/ pia Northern Exile !! Dunno about subjectivity really, using a chest HRM is objective enough innit?!!😂 It's just too bad, when I run I reckon I feel just the same as I did way back but if I had film footage of both efforts I'd be shocked at the dropped pace!
Dec 2021
11:57am, 27 Dec 2021
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Big_G
Can I quickly check my understanding of the infographic that Fetch produces? On the top right, it displays HR and beats/mile - is that the average for the whole year?
Dec 2021
12:02pm, 27 Dec 2021
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Dvorak
Just had a look at mine. Without checking in detail, they do look plausible as my annual average figures.
Jan 2022
9:11am, 17 Jan 2022
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larkim
Had a few anomalies between my watch and my OH1+ yesterday which I can see by using the Auxillary Heart Rate field from the Connect IQ store.

Anyone know if there is a way of doing calculations on that additional data that's now in the FIT file? Or swapping the auxHR data for the watch HR data post-activity? I'm just curious to see what the difference is in a little more detail as both traces were pretty close, but the odd period of wander either side.
Feb 2022
5:01pm, 5 Feb 2022
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steve45
For ordinary "Jo and Joanne Blogs" possibly basic HR is enough to deal with although more detail is fascinating.

A year ago my max HR (test) showed within one BPM what it did today on an "all out" run. However my actual pace has dropped, if I'd tried any harder I might not have made it home! I can put a sensible plan in now to get back a bit of pace but annoyingly, after a certain point, particularly increased age then pace decline is inevitable. I'm talking here about old runners, all's positive until maybe mid 40s and then the best days in terms of pace are yesterday.
Feb 2022
4:45pm, 27 Feb 2022
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Nellers
Looking for experts to explain something to me (or to tell me it's wrong in the first place).

Just watching a Youtube clip which asserted that Cardiac Output (Stroke volume x BPM) at rest DECREASES in fitter individuals.

Now I'm sure that the BPM does reduce (lower resting HR) but I also thought that the stroke volume would increase.

Further I'd have thought that the demand for oxygen etc from a trained body, even at rest, would INCREASE, not decrease (more blood volume, more muscle mass etc).

Is the clip wrong? Or are my assumptions about what drives the change in Cardiac Output at rest wrong? Or is it not as simple as being one or the other?

Thanks.
Feb 2022
5:12pm, 27 Feb 2022
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Dvorak
At first glance, that would tally with my general understanding. You don't just have the capacity to use more oxygen, you are more efficient at using that oxygen.
Feb 2022
5:17pm, 27 Feb 2022
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Nellers
Hmm. It just feels backwards. I need to have a think about it.
Mar 2022
2:50pm, 1 Mar 2022
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steve45
Whatever my current stroke is it is just not giving me enough of what I need! I thought that when I was fifty I'd likely be popping along near enough the same when I got to 70. Now a couple of years past that and it's a pain in the *** to see such a decline!

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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