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SPR 26 Jan 8:55am, 26 Jan 2025 46,905 posts	0 SPR Actually given I presume that your card isn't taken around (mine never leaves the house), the only way they could have got details is via the app I think?
mk parkrun 26 Jan 2:53pm, 26 Jan 2025 69 posts	0 mk parkrun I use my Santander for paying on the watch, always works fine. Unfortunately the Garmin itself has turned shit. Fenix 5s, 4 years old. Useless at measuring HR so I bought the Pro chest band too. That has now also become useless, despite switching for a brand new battery it routinely records 30bpm higher than actual. Binned the strap, watch recorded 180+bpm on an easy bimble, average 162. It also measured 500m further over 10k than my mate. Today's 10k race was an average of 148bpm! Then walked to the pub. This is a known distance of 800m. It's set to auto pause, but I noticed when I got home that it kept running for 15 minutes or say whilst I was sat down, recording an extra km! Anyone had success returning old watches?
Northern Exile 26 Jan 3:05pm, 26 Jan 2025 10,770 posts	0 Northern Exile SPR wrote:Actually given I presume that your card isn't taken around (mine never leaves the house), the only way they could have got details is via the app I think? No, the card never left the house. It was on my [Android] phone and Garmin Pay only. I agree that it must be via the App, but how I have absolutely no idea, it really doesn't make much sense.
flanker 26 Jan 4:36pm, 26 Jan 2025 21,391 posts	0 flanker It would only need a compromised payment terminal environment, or even a data leak from a business that had stored all the details when it shouldn't be doing so. The watch broadcasts it signal to a terminal, so can reasonably easily be intercepted. It's little different from the scum walking around with an RFID scanner. This, and only this, is where the Apple Watch wins out - each transaction is a dummy card signature, which it then associates with your card, so it can't leak your actual card details. Shame Garmin doesn't do something similar.
SPR 26 Jan 4:39pm, 26 Jan 2025 46,907 posts	0 SPR I hadn't realised Garmin was using direct details as I know Google Pay doesn't.
SPR 26 Jan 4:41pm, 26 Jan 2025 46,908 posts	0 SPR Actually going on Garmin, they use a virtual account number linked to the device as well?
chunkywizard 26 Jan 7:10pm, 26 Jan 2025 17,864 posts	0 chunkywizard mk parkrun wrote:I use my Santander for paying on the watch, always works fine. Unfortunately the Garmin itself has turned shit. Fenix 5s, 4 years old. Useless at measuring HR so I bought the Pro chest band too. That has now also become useless, despite switching for a brand new battery it routinely records 30bpm higher than actual. Binned the strap, watch recorded 180+bpm on an easy bimble, average 162. It also measured 500m further over 10k than my mate. Today's 10k race was an average of 148bpm! Then walked to the pub. This is a known distance of 800m. It's set to auto pause, but I noticed when I got home that it kept running for 15 minutes or say whilst I was sat down, recording an extra km! Anyone had success returning old watches? Have you tried factory reseting it?
larkim 26 Jan 7:10pm, 26 Jan 2025 26,477 posts	0 larkim Apple watch changes the card number every time ? That sounds intriguing. I'm amazed they can generate enough numbers.
flanker 26 Jan 9:27pm, 26 Jan 2025 21,392 posts	0 flanker I was over-summarised that Apple Pay doesn't use a traditional card number at all (and I think the same for Google Pay) but a completely different protocol that associates the transaction with the stored card. It generates a card number (or actually the last 4 digits iirc) just so that the transaction can be identified by the customer and retailer. This is why it's more secure than a traditional card. I didn't think Garmin did the same, but I've not developed for Garmin devices so I'm not so au fait with them, and maybe they do. Which would certainly make the Curve details being stolen weird, and maybe point to a data breach at the Curve end?
Gooner 27 Jan 12:51am, 27 Jan 2025 23,122 posts	0 Gooner SPR wrote:Gooner wrote:I have no target race or plan on Garmin so maybe that's why it's happy with zero anaerobic? That or because it knows my bodyweight 😂 The change was a 5k run this morning, it took me from being under after my 10k in the week to over today. I had no race till the other day. Are you just getting back into running? I didn't look at it when I came back from my foot injury in late October (6 weeks no running, I actually turned training status off till 1 Jan) but that would make sense. I've been a bit on and off since the end of last summer due to shin splints and a torn hamstring so it could be that too on fairness.