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Sep 2020
3:54pm, 3 Sep 2020
6,561 posts
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The_Saint
It isn't the strap that is broken
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Sep 2020
3:59pm, 3 Sep 2020
9,839 posts
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chunkywizard
ah yes, sorry misread. As it's close to 2 years phone Garmin and they may still replace if you are lucky.
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Sep 2020
4:18pm, 3 Sep 2020
159 posts
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Bright Strider
Epoxy and a very long setting time might work.
I repaired some plastic glasses with expoxy lots of times. The last time I reglued them and put them away for ... a couple of years. Now they're fine.
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Sep 2020
4:00pm, 4 Sep 2020
31,138 posts
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SPR
So when I turned off training status last Thursday, it thought my VO2 Max was 60.77 (raw number on file via Runalyze, was 60.45 the day before), and watch displayed 61. Today it is 63.00 and was 63.34 after my session on Wednesday (watch displayed 63). Almost like the watch really wants me to turn on training status again 
In reality, it because the way it measures VO2 Max is bias towards certain runs IMO.
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Sep 2020
3:14pm, 10 Sep 2020
31,244 posts
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SPR
More VO2 Max stuff. I think the 245 changes more often than the 230 I had previously (at least changes you see anyway). I wonder whether they were more conservative about changing things when they first added it.
I did a session on tired legs on Tuesday (after racing on Sunday), after the session it thought I needed 30 hours recovery. I ran three miles home and despite knowing I was tired it knocked 0.6 off my VO2 Max based on the run home. Obviously I know not to take it seriously, but it's a bit odd that it doesn't take information that it is giving you into account in calcs.
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Sep 2020
3:19pm, 10 Sep 2020
6,587 posts
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The_Saint
I just bought a 245 because of my strap attachment issue, what I have noticed immediately is that the exercise HR is considerably higher than with my 645. I am going to try a chest strap to see what is going on.
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Sep 2020
3:22pm, 10 Sep 2020
31,246 posts
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SPR
I use my chest strap as I don't trust optical.
I was hoping optical could work well in races (where I don't use strap to avoid any distractions from it moving around) but it has produced laughable stats.
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Sep 2020
3:23pm, 10 Sep 2020
9,899 posts
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chunkywizard
SPR, the 30 hours recovery, is actually 30 hours until the next hard effort, not the next activity. It assesses the VO2 max after every run so as you were knackered it reassess your VO2 max and went down, but then again, you would expect it to, right? I really only check mu VO2 after hard efforts as they are the ones that usually make it go up!
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Sep 2020
3:31pm, 10 Sep 2020
31,247 posts
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SPR
CW - I know that it is 30 hours to your next hard effort. I've said that here before.
The point is, as a measure of fitness, it is useless if it is continually moving around and can't understand that you're just tired in one run (would be different if it was a week or more)!
Garmin say they take the most reliable measure so you'd think they should take that into account. I've done the odd run where VO2 Max wasn't displayed, indicating it does ignore it sometimes.
Also the hard efforts making it go up is ok, but only to a point given the whole selling point of it is that it can measure VO2 Max at sub maximal paces.
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Sep 2020
3:32pm, 10 Sep 2020
7,249 posts
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Sigh
Re; VO2 Max - and Runalyze; it's nice to have the Garmin VO2 Max file number displayed to two decimal places. I did a virtual race on Tuesday, and then an easy-ish run today. All Garmin told me was that my training was now 'unproductive' and that my VO2 max had gone down, despite being 46 on both days. Runalyze shows that actually it's gone down from 46.38 to 45.99, which is far more informative than Garmin's training status of 'unproductive'. (I wasn't expecting it to go up anyway, it's just nice to get the scale of decrease).
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