Fetchie Flab Fighters
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Nov 2024
2:55pm, 13 Nov 2024
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RevBarbaraG
The thing about that is, @lipglossbitch, that weight for height, or BMI, makes no distinction between muscle mass and fat. That’s why waist to height ratio and body fat percentage are more useful. Waist circumference should be less than half your height. Mine is currently 0.54…. and that is measuring at my natural waist/narrowest point, whereas you are supposed to measure it half way between the bottom of the rib cage and the iliac crest (hip bone). If only I could find my hip bone when standing. Suffice it to say, that measurement would be higher than my natural waist. And the other one is body fat percentage. Using the lower estimate (from the Boditrax at the gym rather than my home scale) I am still close to 39%. The information I have is that “clinically relevant overweight” is 36% for women (25% for men) and “obesity” is above 42% for women (30% for men). But ideally we (women) would be under 30%. So it’s entirely possible that you are towards the upper end of that “ideal” weight range, but have a body fat percentage in the athletic range, which I think is under 22% for women. So losing much weight would not be appropriate for you. |
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Nov 2024
3:08pm, 13 Nov 2024
3,851 posts
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RevBarbaraG
@EvilPixie when I lost over 6 stone for the first time, I was aiming/hoping for 9 stone 7 and a size 12. And I remember the measurements: 34-24-36. I never got there, but I got to 10-4, and just about into size 14: 36-26-38. According to M&S, a 12 now is 36.25, 29.5, 39.5. Increased in every dimension, with the largest increase in the waist. That is indicative of much more visceral fat. Which is metabolically unhealthy. So M&S have adjusted their sizing to better fit real women’s bodies. Which is sort of good, because we all need clothes that fit. But those bodies are, on average, much less healthy. And that is not good. Personally I think it is much more down to food environment and eating culture than individual choice. Did we all suddenly become less disciplined and lazier in the last 40 years? I don’t think so. And I don’t think that reduced physical activity is the main issue either, because the evidence is that while activity makes a huge difference to health, it doesn’t make that much difference to weight. But processed food has become a bigger and bigger proportion of what we eat, and frequent snacking has become the norm. Plus the official advice on eating a low fat diet is just wrong from a metabolic perspective. All of the aforementioned stoke insulin levels, and therefore insulin resistance, and therefore obesity. OK, soapbox away. |
Nov 2024
3:12pm, 13 Nov 2024
59,211 posts
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EvilPixie
Also the increase in labour saving stuff Little things like remote controls! on a tv with multiple channels. Easier hoover's and lawn mowers etc Our normal lives are less active, more people working in offices at a desk and binge tv watching is almost a thing of pride |
Nov 2024
9:19pm, 13 Nov 2024
22,692 posts
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Gooner
Less active jobs, more hours at those jobs, generally higher stress levels, less sleep, less activity in personal life, easier access to quick to access processed foods, less time to make proper meals, an acceptance of less veg/fibre/fruit and higher access to meat... The list goes on and on...
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Nov 2024
11:48pm, 13 Nov 2024
25,135 posts
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geordiegirl
Sadly ^^ very true Less time means easy (pre) looked meals, knackered sit on sofa. Back to shades post earlier prescribed (or not) drugs to fix the health problems. We are so not in a better world thanks 30+yrs ago. |
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Nov 2024
12:08am, 14 Nov 2024
25,136 posts
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geordiegirl
*cooked
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Nov 2024
7:53am, 14 Nov 2024
4,849 posts
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Shades
When my neighbour was diagnosed with diabetes I told him to ask to go on the 9 month NHS course that my friend did to try and get blood sugars back into normal range. My neighbour said he wouldn't do that as they were just going to give him medication.
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Nov 2024
8:16am, 14 Nov 2024
59,235 posts
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EvilPixie
😵💫😳
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Nov 2024
8:30am, 14 Nov 2024
25,139 posts
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geordiegirl
Why work at it when pills do the job for you! Honestly frustrates the life out of me but doctors encourage it. Many years ago (& I know I’ve said it before) but the doctor wanted to put me on statins based on 1 blood test… not even a fasting test. She got arsy with me when I refused. I asked her what I could do to improve my cholesterol and when she tried again to push drugs on me insisted on seeing the nurse who did fasting test and ran all the numbers against a lifestyle test and I had a number of 1.6 and you needed to be a 10 to be considered for cholesterol clinic! Theres me thinking I’m huge I’ve piled on so much weight as my eye has been off the ball and it turns out I haven’t and scales show a little loss! |
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Nov 2024
8:34am, 14 Nov 2024
59,237 posts
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EvilPixie
Well done GG I think we are so used to instant gratification and things being easier that effort is not good. Why take stairs when you can get a lift? Walk when you can drive? Etc How many times do you hear people comment about exercise? Why do you go that? It's no longer the norm and people like to conform! |
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