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Jul 2023
10:26am, 18 Jul 2023
3,244 posts
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B Rubble
Why does it need to be locked? Can someone steal your electric charge?
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Jul 2023
12:21pm, 18 Jul 2023
47,308 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Well quite B Rub! The cable locked in, I understand (and it has a manual release for the cable, by the way!) But the flap? Dinnae get it! It's not like a petrol car where you can steal it!  G
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Jul 2023
12:24pm, 18 Jul 2023
21,644 posts
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3M
I expect it is a part they have 1000s of from manufacturing ICE cars. You're just getting the leftovers...
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Jul 2023
12:31pm, 18 Jul 2023
47,309 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Lol, yeah 3M, that's probably it! G
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Jul 2023
1:17pm, 18 Jul 2023
21,573 posts
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larkim
I suppose it's the downside of the flap on the front, it will get grime and muck and general aero abuse. Reading online suggestions around a "firm whack" being the optimal solution for a stuck Kona charging cover. Does feel like a design flaw though in not having some alternative unlocking mechanism for the flap. The manual release for the charger is something which I believe is part of the "spec" of the charging mechansm.
Is the Kona all-electric or is it the same as an ICE version? On the e208 it's identical to the ICE version, so I presume the cover / latch is the same as on the petrol model. I suppose the only solid reason for protecting the socket is to prevent malicious damage to something which is pretty essential to the car - wouldn't want some kiddy opening it as they walked past, sticking a lolly stick in the charging port and messing up the electrics, maybe?
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Jul 2023
1:33pm, 18 Jul 2023
2,748 posts
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HappyTimes
Not sure I could cope with the reduction in power/performance that Hyundai HG
At £50k yet another not exactly for the masses.
Speaking of which also yet another heavyweight too.
Where are our low(relatively) cost and small(er) cars?
These beasts seem to replace one set environmental issues with about as many others.
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Jul 2023
1:39pm, 18 Jul 2023
47,311 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Absolutely HT. I was putting it in for a bit of fun. It's not an everyday car and it's way out of my price range.
Sensible, practical estate type cars are what I need. Not many about, but will be some. G
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Jul 2023
3:50pm, 18 Jul 2023
21,646 posts
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3M
I was surprised at how big (and heavy?) the Tesla range are the other day when I parked next to one. The seem to be aimed at a, er, larger market than most of the European manufacturers.
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Jul 2023
11:20pm, 18 Jul 2023
3,170 posts
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Steve NordRunner
The Ionic 5N seems totally bonkers. I debated putting it on my short list (no idea of the price) but decided against, leaving the Polestar 2 if and when the fossil car becomes problematic.
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Jul 2023
10:07am, 21 Jul 2023
21,621 posts
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larkim
Was discussing the issues of battery health etc in another place, and it occurred to me that there's going to be something of a need for a "car buyer's report" when the second hand market gets into full swing for EVs over the next few years.
There's a lot of information / myth out there about how to look after EV battery packs effectively, and the information displayed in different cars is very different about how good range is. And can be easily manipulated too (I could get my car to report range of about 250 miles on a full charge by making sure I drove it downhill from the charging location, e.g. from the top of the M62 down to Halifax for example).
*If* some of the concepts about looking after the battery do result in material differences in battery health, how would a prospective purchaser know how to distinguish between a car with 30,000 miles on the clock where one had (say) been "rapid" charged daily (apparently "bad" for battery health) vs one where the owner had only ever charged on a 7kw charger between 20% and 80% (apparently the "best" route for battery health)? The former might only have a usable range of 130 miles when purchased, and the latter 170 miles, but you'd need some good info to show one way or another.
(I should add that I'm sceptical that in the *real world* there would be a material difference between two EVs of identical mileage in terms of health / range - whilst the science about battery chemistry does mean there is real degradation of cells, my gut feeling is that it would more likely result in a difference of range of maybe 10-15 miles at worst for identical cars with identical mileage. I've no real data to back that up other than the emerging picture that battery health for older EVs seems to be better than the doom mongers might have feared. The real picture will take a few years to come out as more and more cars come onto the second hand market.)
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