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phal 25 Jan 4:06pm, 25 Jan 2025 5,045 posts	0 phal I’m hoping it will give a bit of a shake up to the women’s side. I think that Jon Lewis is correct that there is not a very big pool of players to pick from necessarily, and this should improve but I also think that is partly down to them not looking outside of their team over the last few years to even try and bring more players through. They’ve relied on the same folk for too long even when they’re not consistent - Dunkley has had a better show this time but her form has been poor/inconsistent for a good while. It is still a transitional phase for the team though I think IMHO. It’s a half and half team - one half huge experience the other half not so much. The bowlers I think have more depth - Charlie Dean is the silent assassin and I think we will see a lot more of her in the future. I think she’s great. Really rate her - she just gets on with things and is consistent. Lauren Filer’s good too and Lauren Bell has huge potential as she’s becoming older and more consistent. Tammy Beaumont should hopefully be back for the test and I’d pick Bouchier over Dunkley at the minute. Bouchier is generally really sound in the field too. Will be interesting to see where Kate Cross is in terms of being able to play after her back injury… if she’s able to play I think that will help steady the ship a bit more along with Beaumont. I really like Heather Knight. I hope they keep her as captain.
ThorntonRunner 25 Jan 4:21pm, 25 Jan 2025 8,103 posts	0 ThorntonRunner rf_fozzy wrote:Am I allowed to say another meek collapse? We'll see what happens in the mens game currently. India chasing 166. The adjective I disagree with is "meek". I'd probably go for reckless - but I'm straining at gnats, it was a very poor batting display apart from Knight, but they're a team in transition and I think "sack the captain and coach" is a bit knee-jerk.
phal 25 Jan 4:39pm, 25 Jan 2025 5,046 posts	0 phal Agree @ThorntonRunner
paulcook 25 Jan 4:44pm, 25 Jan 2025 7,305 posts	0 paulcook I probably shouldn’t be too surprised but seeing Hashan Tillekeratne hiding as his Bangladesh side lost to Windies meekly made me look and the Aussies are the only side coached by a woman. I don’t think I’d be disappointed if they ditched Jon Lewis. I understand input from the best coach available but I think the game would benefit for more opportunity, etc, for women to be in charge. Mini rant over.
phal 25 Jan 5:05pm, 25 Jan 2025 5,048 posts	0 phal Agree Paul - I’m not sure how many women coaches are out there at a high level tbh… Lisa Keightley… Charlotte Edwards… Quick google search shows numbers increasing in female coaches at lower age groups…. icc-cricket.com I know Warwickshire have long had a program in place to get more women involved in coaching. Someone I knew when I was younger has been working her way through the coaching qualifications there and is involved with the ECB now. It’s still going to take time to get the women through the coaching system too.
phal 25 Jan 5:07pm, 25 Jan 2025 5,049 posts	0 phal (I know there are a lot of ex players coaching in India, but I seem to remember them being bowling or batting coaches rather than overall team coaches - more than happy to be corrected!)
phal 25 Jan 5:08pm, 25 Jan 2025 5,050 posts	0 phal And Shelley Nitschke of course 🤦‍♀️
rf_fozzy 25 Jan 5:40pm, 25 Jan 2025 23,510 posts	0 rf_fozzy I can't see how either can possibly keep their position if they lose every game in Australia. Winning in Australia is clearly the benchmark in the women's game that the England team looks to and they've failed as spectacularly as the mens team in the harmison wide 1st ball ashes. It would be different if they'd lost a tight series where they'd been competitive in all games, but they not looked like beating Australia at all. In addition, Knight has now been captain in 5 womens ashes series and has lost all 5. Lewis has been coach for about 2 years now (since after the WC win?) and overseen a tame WC exit and similarly in the T20 cup. And then there's clearly something wrong around the squad somewhere with the Hartley stuff That's why I can't see them keeping their roles. If it were the mens team, it would be a foregone conclusion - captain and coach would be gone.
paulcook 25 Jan 6:12pm, 25 Jan 2025 7,306 posts	0 paulcook I think they know Alex Hartley was right. But secondly it hurt coming from a friend. Their reaction was entirely wrong though. And got worse with the ensuing results.
SPR 25 Jan 6:29pm, 25 Jan 2025 46,901 posts	0 SPR These were Hartley's comments: theguardian.com I think context matters. I don't know enough about it but my guess is Ecclestone took it as a personal attack. This quote specifically is easy to get into body shape judgements even if Hartley didn't mean it that way: "You look at our team – I’m not going to name names but if you look at them, you know.”