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Jul 2019
10:40am, 4 Jul 2019
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Deinonychus
New Zealand now:


Here is the opposite scenario; they have been living off their huge result against SL, but with several close games, and 3 defeats since then, their NRR has been steadily decreasing, until it is close to 0 now.
Jul 2019
11:06am, 4 Jul 2019
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larkim
So Pakistan, 2xbig-ish negatives, (-5 and -2) and then everything else +/-1

NZ 1x big positive, 1xbig-ish negative, 1xmedium +ve and 1xmedium -ve which broadly cancel out and the rest +/-1.

As you say, the difference between them broadly therefore that single good (NZ) or bad (Pakistan) match.

I suppose you could do some correlation analysis on the individual match scores to say which team was more "consistent", or you could set up the system such that the best and the worst results are discarded for every team to tighten things up a little.

Just taking the middle 6 results (making an assumption that Pakistan achieve a good score in the final match, so that that is the one which would be discarded by removing best and worst results), NZ would score 0.667 and Pakistan -0.713. I think it's clear which team has therefore been "better" and more deserving of a semi final place then for consistency's sake.
Jul 2019
11:06am, 4 Jul 2019
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larkim
Thanks for the tables by the way.
Jul 2019
11:09am, 4 Jul 2019
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TRO Saracen
On another matter, feels like a lot of games 'decided by the toss', and ending up very one sided.

My solution:

Side A bats for 25 overs.
Side B bats their full 50 overs.
Side A bats their second 25 overs.

Both sides get to chase a previous innings and 'set' a total. If the pitch/conditions change over the day then it does not ludicrously skew things towards one side or the other.

Reckon the old gin swilling duffers will go for it, they fell for that 'hundred' nonsense...

*files patent*
Jul 2019
11:09am, 4 Jul 2019
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fetcheveryone
Or perhaps impose a range of -1 and +1 on the run rate in any given match. So a trouncing would only result in a -1, not a tournament-ending -5.
Jul 2019
11:10am, 4 Jul 2019
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fetcheveryone
Or they each take it in turns to bat, doing it twice, and they're allowed five days. I'm up for that :-)
Jul 2019
11:12am, 4 Jul 2019
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TRO Saracen
No one will sit there doing nothing but watch cricket for 5 days Fetch.....it'll never fly
Jul 2019
11:16am, 4 Jul 2019
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fetcheveryone
When I was a kid, I used to do the scoring in front of the telly too :-)
Jul 2019
11:26am, 4 Jul 2019
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Oscar the grouch
Why are we saying that getting thrashed shouldn't matter?! The opposite is also true.... so we would expect a big win to be rewarded, but a bad loss 'shouldn't count'??
SPR
Jul 2019
11:26am, 4 Jul 2019
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SPR
Solution is better pitches, the first 20 overs were way easier to bat. Yesterday was comedy

I agree with TMS that Edgbaston on Sunday seemed fair.

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