Coronavirus **support** thread
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Aug 2020
10:29pm, 13 Aug 2020
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Tim of Fife
We intend to have a fully 'normal' four days with our princess, who we've not seen for five months. Yes, we will observe restaurant protocols when we eat out. But at home, there will no masks, distancing, etc, etc. If that makes us reckless in some people's eyes, I can live with their views. |
Aug 2020
10:30pm, 13 Aug 2020
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Derby Tup
Lockdown finished when a) Dominic Cummins went to Durham and b) we were allowed out to play twice per day. Both iirc were months ago
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Aug 2020
10:39pm, 13 Aug 2020
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run free
JR - have you gone to ONS and plugged in the last 4 years of data and compared it with this year? Just in case have provided you with the link to the UK death rate per week. ons.gov.uk Do look at the overall death rates for this country. To help you understand the data quickly, chart the overall dataset to get a feel of what happened when we did not bother and thought the whole thing was just simply a bad cold or a conspiracy to screw the rich economies |
Aug 2020
10:40pm, 13 Aug 2020
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quimby
Have been struggling to keep up with thread; *very* long day at work, but have a suggestion for Too Much Water about poor wifi. We too have poor wifi. It's OK on our phones, but desktop/laptop performance was poor. So we got some of these things: amazon.co.uk which require a network cable. Not cheap, but they are fantastic, our speeds are superb, both working from home and we have no issues. Recommended. |
Aug 2020
10:40pm, 13 Aug 2020
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MsG
Flatlander wrote a blog about sensitivity and specificity of testing (false neg / positive) which is linked to in the side bar, scroll 2/3s down in the post. Scientists do not necessarily think a bad test is better than no test e.g. prostate cancer screening - hasn't happened yet because the available tests are not sufficiently specific. I.e. a positive test does not mean you have prostate cancer, you could have a benign condition. Investigation is invasive and treatment has radical side effects. |
Aug 2020
10:44pm, 13 Aug 2020
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Serendippily
Indeed but the consequences of a bad test is more tests. That I guess was my point. If you have a not great test and a better test, one can be a pathway rather than a replacement
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Aug 2020
10:44pm, 13 Aug 2020
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Johnny Blaze
It's been a fairly common refrain amongst the anti-lockdown protesters that we've "only" had x thousand deaths or we "only" have a small number of daily cases or hospital admissions - the inference being "I see no problem here, lockdown must end." It rather misses the point that we only have the levels we have at the moment because of lockdown. The UK had 67 deaths on 23rd March. By 21st April it was 1200. If this thing goes south again it could go south in a big way, particularly if TTI gets overwhelmed. |
Aug 2020
10:52pm, 13 Aug 2020
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JR
JB But we are now in August & even the ONS data shows excess deaths lower than the5 year rolling average. If we were bombarded with news when it was above why are the press now strangely silent now we are below sbersge? If that’s not scaremongering I don’t know what is. Others may think differently but while we have SD, masks everywhere & obsessive sanitising, movement curtailed, theatres etc still closed, no singing/gigs, businesses not allowed, people scared to hug their relatives ie normal human behaviour we are living abnormally not normally by any stretch of a reasonable definition, & may as well be on lockdown IMO. |
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Aug 2020
10:54pm, 13 Aug 2020
18,726 posts
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Serendippily
Actually things are opening up for us. And remember my husband is ill so if I’m more careful than others that is my prerogative
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Aug 2020
10:57pm, 13 Aug 2020
685 posts
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JR
run free - I have indeed been following ONS data & there are many years when excess deaths have exceeded the current situation but these seem to be overlooked. Indeed 2018 saw many hospitals at crisis point due to a failed flu jab that year yet no masks/SD etc & no one made to feel terrified of killing their granny.
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