Coronavirus **support** thread

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Aug 2020
3:06pm, 12 Aug 2020
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mathschick
I am guessing they are the areas with the greatest rates of cases.

In Newark (Notts) we have an outbreak, mainly centered on a factory, they have brought in a mobile testing centre for people in the town with symptoms, but everyone at the factory will be tested regardless of symptoms or not. It is about balancing resources.

There aren't the resources to test everyone in the Greater Manchester area, for example.
Aug 2020
3:14pm, 12 Aug 2020
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larkim
Just to note, I wouldn't use the dishonest option; but then that's in the context of someone who wouldn't have anyone in my family who would be overly anxious about being a carrier after a family holiday.

I can, however, see how it might be morally acceptable to "fake" a temperature when balanced of the anxiety and fragility of other members of a support bubble to provide that reassurance.
Aug 2020
3:26pm, 12 Aug 2020
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Lip Gloss
Thoughts are with the train driver’s family .

Another train coming from the north was stopped earlier as there was a landslide onto the track. One woman giving the poor driver and guard pelters about the fact she would miss a flight for her holiday....be fecking grateful the train managed to stop unlike the the other one.

Some people need to get priorities into perspective
Aug 2020
3:27pm, 12 Aug 2020
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Rosehip
I'm avoiding mum for 10 days after gettig back from break in Cumbria - we did eat out a couple of times but it's mainly because we met up with daughter who works in a bar/restaurant in Carlisle.

I'm waiting to get enrolled on the study that will give me regular tests - but it seems they're struggling to cope with the numbers that responded.

Daughter, however, because of her job is encouraged to get tested if numbers rise in the area. It seems that certain groups are having regular parties and going on pub-crawls. - so far she's not had a positive test, so hopefully we're OK to - but "hopefully" isn't good enough for me to "bubble up" with mum again yet.
Aug 2020
3:31pm, 12 Aug 2020
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Yorkshire Pie
There is also the possibility of private testing - I've actually been working on something today for a company looking to use its lab facilities for private testing at around £100 a pop. They're mainly looking at the corporate market (employers testing their employees) but there may be options out there for those who want/need a test without symptoms (and who have the morals not to go down the lying to get an NHS test route ;) )
Aug 2020
3:47pm, 12 Aug 2020
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Markymarkmark
£100 a pop! ( :-o ).

Actually, it's probably not unreasonably high. The true cost of most of what we get on the NHS it too well hidden.

My F-i-L came home from Switzerland for the latest round of treatment for his wet macular disease. Each injection there was costing him £2500. Here it's "free" to him. His comment was that the air-fare was peanuts by comparison!

I'm not sure the "nicer" surroundings of the semi-private Swiss Health Service make it any more effective overall, or efficient. But it sure puts the NHS into a good place by comparison on value for money.
WA
Aug 2020
3:58pm, 12 Aug 2020
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WA
[I sometimes think if we did know the actual cost of treatment, we would generally be more thoughtful about when we use the resources and what for. Free at the point of access is easily taken for granted. I wouldn't have it any other way tho, everyone is entitled to healthcare, regardless of their income]

Thanks all. I'm minded to go down the careful and reassuring route as suggested by Geordie-girl. It's true that at home I do *riskier* things than we are doing here, as I visit patients in their own homes, including care homes.
Aug 2020
4:11pm, 12 Aug 2020
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Little Miss Happy
WA - I think the problem I'd have is that all a test would tell you is that you don't have it 'now' - you could have been infected on the last day of your holiday and it not show in a test for two or three days (if my understanding of its incubation is correct). If it were me I'd rather go with being extra cautious for seven to ten days on return if that's possible?

I saw my first JR group of anti social teens this afternoon - a whole ten of them sat on the grass in the park about a metre apart..............
Aug 2020
4:20pm, 12 Aug 2020
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run free
It cost me $400 USD when I went to A&E to get my frost bitten fingers seen. Was not allowed to walk but wheel chaired in. Was made to have my temperature, height and weight all taken. Doc came in, took one look at it and said not much we can do until it blisters. Gave me a prescription for some silver cream. And then I walked out as they had taken away the wheel chair. Was really shocked about the cost.

Found out better to just simply see the pharmacist if you ever get frost bite in the US
Aug 2020
4:25pm, 12 Aug 2020
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Ultra Sparkly Bridget (USB)
I think the private testing will attract those needing an actual certificate of the result which I don’t think happens with the NHS test.

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There is a separate discussion thread for debating the grander scheme of things here: fetcheveryone.com/forum/coronavirus-discussion-thread-61609

Go there if you want to talk about whether it's real, whether the government are trying to control us, etc, etc.

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information, discussion and support about the unfolding Covid-19 outbreak
NO politics please
And above all please be kind and respect others points of view and concerns.

microbiologists view byFlatlander
Science of coronavirus
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/3#blog403867
coronavirus testing by Flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/4#blog405255

information for ashtma sufferers
asthma.org.uk

information for pregnancy
rcog.org.uk

imperial article
imperial.ac.uk
imperial.ac.uk

Government advice gov.uk

advice for those with RA and autoinmmune diseases
nras.org.uk

diabetes advice
diabetes.org.uk

explaination of the maths of the growth of the epidemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg&fbclid=IwAR3exg0rG_Bz3gPqjXY3rcFajqVSk-cOK5lQGVkYcuzoMOdNEp7VTgH-Kac&app=desktop


tips to help you cope
drive.google.com

Advice to stay at home
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk

planning for and what to do if you are ill
covid-at-home.info
support for self isolates
nhsvolunteerresponders.org.uk

Ft coronavirus tracker
ft.com

A good article about dealing with the feelings of grief that the current situation has given us hbr.org

advice on self isolation for indivuals with symptoms or and their household
gov.uk

seven day rolling averages
ourworldindata.org

A sustainable exit strategy document
institute.global

susceptibility to covid by flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/5#blog406151

bromage article
erinbromage.com

government guidelines 11th may for England(NI, Scotland and Wales linked at the bottom of article)
gov.uk

breathing practice
physiotherapyforbpd.org.uk

lancet articles
thelancet.com

help with mask anxiety
psychologytoday.com

tracker
travellingtabby.com
theguardian.com
video of droplet dispersal
https://youtu.be/DNeYfUTA11s

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