Cheating in amateur sports

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Velociraptor Jun 2016 3:43pm, 2 Jun 2016 33,879 posts	0 Velociraptor I suspect the lad I saw isn't the brightest banana in the bunch. On the other hand, it's very possible that he'd been told, "It's OK, you'll never be tested at this level."
edison Jun 2016 4:12pm, 2 Jun 2016 286 posts	0 edison Followed the Litton link from the NYT article and it took me to a New Yorker piece on Litton. Quite long, but amazing: newyorker.com
stuart little Jun 2016 4:19pm, 2 Jun 2016 1,126 posts	0 stuart little There's a few serial cheats around. Letsrun has massive threads on some of them.
Winded Jun 2016 8:49pm, 3 Jun 2016 4,195 posts	0 Winded I can see that for some people the difference between milk and beetroot juice and paracetamol and decongestant and EPO is a bit blurry. I can even see that if someone wants to train and has something that helps them it is still their body. It's competition on the basis of who has the best prescription that just seems so wrong.
mr d Apr 2017 10:21am, 17 Apr 2017 2,536 posts	0 mr d bbc.co.uk Someone is more obsessed with this than is healthy
tonyp2604 Apr 2017 10:34am, 17 Apr 2017 550 posts	0 tonyp2604 Yes, it's a bit anoraky, but if it sorts out disputes that's no bad thing.
Jambomo Apr 2017 11:12am, 17 Apr 2017 6,228 posts	0 Jambomo Its good that he managed to clear someone of cheating. Nothing wrong with being a bit of an anorak
Dvorak Apr 2017 11:39am, 17 Apr 2017 13,486 posts	0 Dvorak Quite a few of the cheaters are narcissistic, self-promoting knobs. Some even build business on the back of their "achievements". Happy there is someone out there catching them out. (And others will do a lot of stuff "for charity" attracting sponsorship and publicity, meeting the famous, getting on tv - like the LEJOG world record run attempt of earlier this month, which is curiously hard to find any info on now. I assume it did not succeed. I wonder what all the well-meaning but gullible who were roped in are thinking now?)
stuart little Apr 2017 11:54am, 17 Apr 2017 1,268 posts	0 stuart little Dvorak- there's an 80 page thread on letsrun on that attempt if you want to bore yourself. The short answer is his feet were shredded after a 49 mile day 1, became a run/cycle/travel in the van affair, then abandoned not long after (and started to delete everything they could from the Internet)
The_Saint Apr 2017 11:56am, 17 Apr 2017 6,005 posts	0 The_Saint Derek Murphy first came up with this idea in the Rossi thread on Letsrun letsrun.com I first encountered Letsrun due to reading a story about a serial US Marathon cheat in 2007, this pre-dated Litton and Rossi and Kaiha and Rob Young and our current UK hero I tangentially mentioned a couple of weeks ago. The fascinating thing about Letsrun is due to mainly the to the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution you get freedom of speech rather than a self-congratulatory echo chamber. I think what Derek (Letsrun handle "Doubler") is doing is excellent, rather than tut about cheats, he outs them.