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Sharkie Jun 2016 9:31am, 2 Jun 2016 9,293 posts	Quote Pin Sharkie Is it really, Doctor K? !!! I checked my hayfever stuff is ok - it's easy to find the list. Unfortunately it's more likely to 'cause drowziness' (but might not) than an increase in speed.
Velociraptor Jun 2016 9:57am, 2 Jun 2016 33,873 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor Cold and hay fever treatments at the recommended dose should be safe provided they don't contain decongestants, which are banned. Athletes have allegedly got into a pickle with doping control for using cold or hay fever treatments bought abroad without checking the ingredients. I believe them in the same way that I believe that Maria Sharapova was really taking meldonium for a potentially life-threatening heart condition.
Sharkie Jun 2016 10:03am, 2 Jun 2016 9,296 posts	Quote Pin Sharkie I'm no longer a user, V-rap - but I did wonder about HRT in my early 50s.
Velociraptor Jun 2016 10:16am, 2 Jun 2016 33,874 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor Normal HRT is fine. Back in the olden days when we used HRT implants it was fairly commonplace to whang in a testosterone pellet too, and that might have been less OK. That probably still happens in private clinics, but HRT implants have fallen out of favour generally for good reasons.
SPR Jun 2016 10:23am, 2 Jun 2016 21,760 posts	Quote Pin SPR Dopers are very unlikely to be lazy, I think the stereotypical doper is going to be someone that will do everything to be the best they can be, that includes training hard, which doping will help with. I'm pretty sure it's easy to rationalize doping after all you don't give credit to the food you eat for your performances instead of your effort so why would you with EPO? The thing to remember though is that doping is banned because of the risk to athletes health not the performance gains, and that's why I'll always be against legalising it.
Velociraptor Jun 2016 10:32am, 2 Jun 2016 33,875 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor The safety thing is probably more of an issue with amateur athletes, who rarely have access to the expertise and monitoring that the professionals have, though I wouldn't be all that surprised if there were well-off sportive riders or triathletes with near patient testing facilities at home and tame private doctors on the end of a telephone. When I'm older and weaker, I reserve the right to have a little motor in a normal-looking bike frame if I want, and to put my rides on Strava.
mr d Jun 2016 11:22am, 2 Jun 2016 2,168 posts	Quote Pin mr d I noticed my running (and my breathing in general improve) when my asthma medicine was changed, but as a Dr told me to always carry my epipens and an inhaler there extra wait probably cancels out any marginal gains. Not drug cheating, but this was on another thread and it is epic on comparison with lying on Strata. mobile.nytimes.com
mr d Jun 2016 11:22am, 2 Jun 2016 2,169 posts	Quote Pin mr d *Strava
mr d Jun 2016 11:23am, 2 Jun 2016 2,170 posts	Quote Pin mr d *weight ffs
SPR Jun 2016 11:29am, 2 Jun 2016 21,761 posts	Quote Pin SPR Haha Vrap, Re mechanical doping, that was actually going to be my next point. If you look at the reaction of pro cyclists to mechanical doping vs physiological doping, you can see how latter can be rationalised and riders are not condemned by the peers, where whereas the former is totally abhorrent and cyclists would be happy to see life bans handed out immediately.