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Jun 2020
2:10pm, 21 Jun 2020
3,955 posts
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Kieren
That's very neat Smibl. I think just one bike in a space feels like it steals the space but 3 or more becomes an efficient use.
Mudmeander, I think you lost the space between IMG and the number somehow. or Maybe it was the full stop after the bracket?
Hopefully this will post (your image, with space on a new line, so no punctuation or special characters). 
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Jun 2020
2:11pm, 21 Jun 2020
3,956 posts
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Kieren
Oh - haha - my mistake - Smibl had posted your image
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Jun 2020
4:48pm, 21 Jun 2020
8,711 posts
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simbil
Ha yeah, I just corrected the image tag so people could see it without having to search
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Jun 2020
8:36pm, 22 Jun 2020
26,746 posts
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Dave.O
Gravel bike = Early 90's MTB with drop bars
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Jun 2020
10:04pm, 22 Jun 2020
8,712 posts
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simbil
Nah, lower BBs and better wheels these days - though I did like some of those 90's rigid MTBs - first MTB I got came with horrible heavy shocks and got the shop to swap them out for rigid forks.
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Jun 2020
7:39am, 23 Jun 2020
3,687 posts
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Pou Pou LePhoõk
Gravel bike = 'traditional' tourer (72* angles) maybe?
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Jun 2020
9:13am, 23 Jun 2020
104 posts
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ftrobbie
I must confess I have a 5 year old cyclocross bike which was used as a commuter/ explorer bike. I struggle to understand the difference between it and a "gravel" bike. I am assuming it is thinly veiled attempt at selling you an almost identical bike that panders to your ego to have a much more adventurous sounding outgoing bike. Wouldn't a hardtail 29er with lockouts on the front forks be far more flexible for adventure although heavier than a gravel bike?
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Jun 2020
11:30am, 23 Jun 2020
8,715 posts
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simbil
Did an event on the South Downs Way a couple of years back and was riding a crosser whilst another chap was on a 29er. They passed me downhill and I passed them uphill, not much in it either way on the flat - crosser maybe had a slight advantage when it wasn't rough going.
Suspect a gravel bike would have been a tad faster as the relatively high BB on the crosser makes for twitchy descending when it gets steep.
But yeh, gravel is lots of hype and marketing around some otherwise small differences in geometry and a coming of age in drop bar STIs i.e. hydraulic discs.
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Jun 2020
11:57am, 23 Jun 2020
1,624 posts
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oumaumau
Don't gravel bikes take a fatter tyre than crossers?
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Jun 2020
11:59am, 23 Jun 2020
11,324 posts
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larkim
Gravel bikes don't have a wikipedia page. Therefore they may not really exist
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