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EvilPixie Sep 2021 8:15am, 16 Sep 2021 27,941 posts	0 EvilPixie Listening to an audio book ... "Unf#ck your brain" so far the following have made me go hmmmm emotions last 90 seconds ... not hours days weeks. They last longer because we dwell on them and keep them alive. Also Failure is an event .... success is a person. You fail at something not you are the failure in itself. Likewise you had to do the thing to successfully
EvilPixie Sep 2021 8:30am, 16 Sep 2021 27,944 posts	0 EvilPixie from what she is saying I tend to get anxious a lot and the current work situation (no drivers!) is having an impact on me She's talked about the ABCDE approach (some information here .... https://www.psychological-consultancy.com/blog/easy-as-abcde/) which I think I can take a lot from The A and B part link to what I said earlier about the outlaw swim and could be useful I think
Canute Sep 2021 10:17am, 16 Sep 2021 2,429 posts	0 Canute Thanks for starting this interesting thread, Sharkie. I too found the rather prissy young woman presenting the happinesslab podcast linked to on the previous page, a little irritating. Nonetheless, buried in the fluff were some helpful ideas. To me the most important thing was spelling out the difference between liking and wanting, and pointing out that you can convert something you want to do into something you like to do by consciously shifting your evaluation of the things that that you want to do but do not naturally like doing. However one small issue where I disagree with that young woman was her implicit assumption that watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer when on the elliptical was a good approach. If you need to distract yourself from your chosen form of exercise, you have already lost the plot. You are reinforcing your belief that exercise is not in itself something enjoyable. Over the years I have spent many hours on the elliptical and I find it a good way to get in tune with my body. However, I can understand why tuning into your body when doing something as monotonous as the elliptical does not appeal to most people. Outdoor running is much more appealing for many people. But whatever exercise you do, it is worthwhile trying to shift your evaluation of the activity so that it is something you like doing rather than merely something you want to do.
Canute Sep 2021 10:30am, 16 Sep 2021 2,430 posts	0 Canute PIx, as I see it, steps C and D in Rational Emotional Therapy are the steps need to convert something you want to do but do not like, into something that you want to do and like doing. Step C involves taking note of the feelings, cognitions, physical/physiological responses, and behaviours accompanied your experience of the situation. Step D requires active debate in your own mind about those experiences and discarding the self-defeating or maladaptive beliefs that led to unpleasant experiences.
EvilPixie Sep 2021 10:51am, 16 Sep 2021 27,949 posts	0 EvilPixie how I read it work is currently doing my head in! I see the constant moving or deliveries and shorts of deliveries as Me failing to do MY job properly which stresses me out. BUT in reality the moving of deliveries is not my fault ... we haven't got enough drivers (we as in the country not we as in company!) and therefore I can't do anything about it and therefore have to accept it is not my fault I personally are not giving the shit service it is something beyond my control. Once I can acknowledge this I should be able to stop myself from saying I am shit and getting wound up about my poor service as it's not me. A bit of the control the controllable idea. At least I think that's the idea!
sallykate Sep 2021 11:09am, 16 Sep 2021 8,251 posts	0 sallykate I was thinking about this earlier, in a fairly random way. The fact that most people know in a basic way how their bodies work but not their brains, in terms of the various systems in play. Am minded to re-read Ruby Wax's Sane New World (or finish reading it - not sure I got through it). We recognise and know how to rest when physically tired or injured but I'm not sure how good we are at recognising when our brains need a rest.
HappyG(rrr) Sep 2021 11:15am, 16 Sep 2021 39,707 posts	0 HappyG(rrr) There was a fascinating podcast / radio show (I'll find link on iPlayer) on BBC about the connection between your gut, your nervous system and your brain. Emphasizing how your brain and your nervous system is pretty much your whole body, not just in your head. G
HappyG(rrr) Sep 2021 11:16am, 16 Sep 2021 39,708 posts	0 HappyG(rrr) Think this was the one... bbc.co.uk There're other episodes about the Hippocampus etc. G
Sharkie Sep 2021 11:17am, 16 Sep 2021 18,614 posts	0 Sharkie Bit pushed for time but with lots to say (so what's new). Great to see you, Canute - I agree that if you need distraction from your chosen form of exercise 'you have already lost the plot' - if, of course, you have a plot in the first place. I do! As for the snippets about type one rewards, the instant gratification sort, and how to make them less appealing... I couldn't help thinking of a phrase that's probably now frowned upon. She DID keep going on about the bloody 'Cookie Jar' and what she was saying was nothing fresher than 'I minute on the lips, a lifetime on the hips.' But yes, wanting and liking is an interesting topic.
Sharkie Sep 2021 11:23am, 16 Sep 2021 18,615 posts	0 Sharkie Ah yeah - I agree HappyG. I heard that a while ago, interesting. Lot of new research in food/brain/body connections right now. Many interesting progs on R4. I love R4!