USA Presidential Election watch - have you got USA Presidential Election
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Nov 2016
12:39pm, 9 Nov 2016
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Jambomo
Indeed, I agree.
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Nov 2016
12:48pm, 9 Nov 2016
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larkim
As a complete intellectual snob I've for many years thought that there needs to be some sort of IQ test associated with being allowed the right to vote. I'm quite happy for someone with a good level of intelligence to hold different views to me and vote accordingly. But plenty of the US votes and Brexit votes were cast in favour of Trump/Leave by people who I wouldn't trust to make sensible household decisions, let alone decide future economic and demographic policy. Or in other words, dog whistle politics works when the dogs don't realise they are being manipulated. |
Nov 2016
12:55pm, 9 Nov 2016
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DeeGee
I think there could be some mileage in applying the methodology in that website where they pick paragraphs from each party's published manifesto, you choose which passage most represents your views and it tells you who to vote for.
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Nov 2016
12:57pm, 9 Nov 2016
17,670 posts
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DeeGee
Something I've always fancied doing in Britain is not having a ballot paper, but instead giving everyone a blank sheet of paper on which they write the name of the candidate they are voting for. Automatically disqualifies anyone who thinks they are actually voting for the Prime Minister. |
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Nov 2016
12:58pm, 9 Nov 2016
17,671 posts
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DeeGee
This website here: voteforpolicies.org.uk
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Nov 2016
1:03pm, 9 Nov 2016
883 posts
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Tonybv9
"But plenty of the US votes and Brexit votes were cast in favour of Trump/Leave by people who I wouldn't trust to make sensible household decisions" I know you prefaced this with a confession of intellectual snobbery, but, really? I suggest that plenty of the Remain voters did so for the "wrong" reasons. This is the kind of language I was referring to: theguardian.com I can't find much on Trump slagging off the 'Murican people in the same way. Clinton miscalculated by playing the moral superiority card. |
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Nov 2016
1:19pm, 9 Nov 2016
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Jambomo
Voting is a responsibility as much as a right though. The worst thing we can do is to vote on instinct or without care. I am not in favour of removing the vote from any group of people but I wish that more of those who have the ability would make the effort to really inform themselves about the issues and options that are available, instead of moaning that nobody has told them X or bragginig that they decide when they are in the polling booth. Of course that goes both ways, people need to be able to access reliable, accurate and unbiased information. It is nearly impossible, with the media in the state that it is in, and we have become mistrustful of what everyone tells us, meaning we don't know when people should be listened to and when they are speaking out with their sphere of knowledge. It was one of the main issues I have against the Brexit referendum, the EU is such a large body which works with countries in such a variety of ways that few people in the UK could have really understood what we gain and stand to lose by leaving. It was almost impossible that we could have a well-informed vote. Its why we should never have had a referendum. |
Nov 2016
1:28pm, 9 Nov 2016
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LindsD
*applauds*
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Nov 2016
1:48pm, 9 Nov 2016
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Chrisull
"Clinton miscalculated by playing the moral superiority card" She was trying to energise her base (which she did), but it also backfired as it energisesd Trump's base too. Turnout was good on both sides. |
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Nov 2016
1:55pm, 9 Nov 2016
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fartlek
What will Obama's legacy be? If he was to pick one change he made whilst in office he would surely go with the affordable care act. Whilst not perfect, imagine how devastated he must feel knowing that those changes he busted a gut to introduce might all be reversed. If I was him I'd be seriously pissed off today. And tomorrow. |
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