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Nov 2016
3:24pm, 9 Nov 2016
3,923 posts
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postieboy
Trump is like Brexit. He pitched himself as the change candidate even though he has no plan how to go forward.
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Nov 2016
3:27pm, 9 Nov 2016
10,221 posts
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Chrisull
The pollster from the clip is actually incorrect in one way- the poorest DIDNT vote for Trump, but I think the rest of her assertion is true, undecideds often know how they will vote, but won't tell the pollster. This is probably what happened in Brexit, and 2015. I bet you will find similar correlations between class/colour on the votes. It makes me go back to Fenlands point, have we gone back to the 1970s and Jim Davidson jokes? I think we never left the 1970s, I think people often know how they are supposed to think, not call people n****** or w*** or p**** anymore, but they don't change their mind, they just suppress telling people what they think and carry on thinking that. So when a candidate like Clinton comes along with the "higher moral ground", they derive pleasure from doing the opposite... |
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Nov 2016
3:46pm, 9 Nov 2016
3,924 posts
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postieboy
Even though Trump insulted women and the ethnic minorities, it appears it didn't affect his vote too much. telegraph.co.uk
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Nov 2016
3:47pm, 9 Nov 2016
14,877 posts
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The Teaboy
Watch South Park episode 'Goobacks' from 2004. Nailed it. Dey took urr jerbs.... |
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Nov 2016
4:08pm, 9 Nov 2016
5,976 posts
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Too Much Water
Obama's legacy - well he got OBL Hopefully his wife will be the first female president next time round |
Nov 2016
4:12pm, 9 Nov 2016
1,266 posts
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larkim
""But plenty of the US votes and Brexit votes were cast in favour of Trump/Leave by people who I wouldn't trust to make sensible household decisions" I know you prefaced this with a confession of intellectual snobbery, but, really? I suggest that plenty of the Remain voters did so for the "wrong" reasons." Undoubtedly true. Clearly I'm prejudiced as my opinions would be anti-Trump and pro-Remain, but if some of the clear policies / proposals of both Trump/Remain were clearly nonsense and yet got public approval (e.g. the "wall" and the £350m a week claim) then surely only those who are incapable of sensible intellectual judgement would have been taken in by those claims or proposals? It only takes relatively small numbers to tip the balance in both of these elections. |
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Nov 2016
4:13pm, 9 Nov 2016
10,222 posts
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Chrisull
On ethnic minorities the African American vote for Trump was negligible, and the Hispanic turnout was low although higher than for Romney.However the latter must be put in context - far MORE Hispanic voters turned out to vote this time, as opposed to under Romney. Texas demographics look good for future Democrats :-).
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Nov 2016
4:34pm, 9 Nov 2016
7,365 posts
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Binks
Apparently 9% of registered democrats voted Trump. 7% the other way. nytimes.com |
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Nov 2016
4:48pm, 9 Nov 2016
7,366 posts
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Binks
It seems the intelligent people don't seem to be intelligent enough to convince the stupid people not to do something stupid. Maybe they are not that intelligent after all?
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Nov 2016
4:52pm, 9 Nov 2016
6,043 posts
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Jambomo
The problem is they don't try, they just call them stupid. Maybe if they did try and actually started laying out factual information and evidence for basing their opinions upon, the stupid people may turn out not to be stupid but actually see what they have been talking about.
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