Ultra training for beginners

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Northern Exile Mar 2021 12:32pm, 7 Mar 2021 7,443 posts	0 Northern Exile Absolutely I do, I recall that the last time I did the 50 (some time back admittedly) I used a pair of NB Leadvilles. The only drawback could be is if it rains heavily and they get a bit waterlogged.
Rosehip Mar 2021 1:00pm, 7 Mar 2021 19,989 posts	0 Rosehip That's great, thank you - I'm guessing they're not exactly Flanker's cup of tea but they suit me (Runners need have the women's model v5 at £85, I wanted to get a second pair before they "upgrade" them)
MovingAlong Mar 2021 1:31pm, 7 Mar 2021 105 posts	0 MovingAlong Can everyone here just tell me what shoes to get? :-D Seriously, all very interesting reading - thank you. Think I've settled on giving the Roclites a whirl. Went for an off road run yesterday in road shoes, same route as the one earlier in the week in the Speedgoats - no calf pain at all, so think I've got to the bottom of the issue. Tempted to try the Speedgoats one last time, but likewise also don't want to suffer the pain! If anyone is looking to off-load size 8.5 mens trail shoes, I could be interested...
FenlandRunner Mar 2021 1:39pm, 7 Mar 2021 6,025 posts	0 FenlandRunner Just my tuppence worth. I think the Hierro's would be perfect for the L50. I wore a pair for the Cheviot Goat and they stood up to the challenge very well. The conditions were awful.
flanker Mar 2021 5:31pm, 7 Mar 2021 19,732 posts	0 flanker MA - we have a load of 8.5 trail shoes to offload (roclites, mudclaws, talons, etc) as well as road shoe ... just as soon as lockdown if lifted as they're not at home! Ros, yep, not my cup of tea - too much drop and foam - but they'd be fine for the 50. Other than the drop down to Haweswater, which can be a mud bath on wet years, especially if several hundred have already done it, I think you could run it in road shoes. The trailtalons I use for the L100 have less grip than many road shoes!
Rosehip Mar 2021 8:00pm, 7 Mar 2021 19,998 posts	0 Rosehip My big toe joints will need the foam over 50 miles, I think. I'm going to try various gel pads and things in less cushy more grippy shoes in case it's really wet. I did wonder if I could get away with roadclaws/parkclaws ? but they do say not road shoes.
Northern Exile Mar 2021 8:39pm, 7 Mar 2021 7,444 posts	0 Northern Exile I wouldn't trust a ParkClaw for anything longer than a few miles. Great concept and much under-rated in terms of the grip available, but the geometry of them is dreadful. I've heard from loads of runners and wear-testers that the only safe way to run with a ParkClaw is with orthotic inserts or some degree of arch support. If you can get away without this, you're lucky The new ParkClaw is supposed to be much improved, but I don't think they've done much about the awful lack of support.
Rosehip Mar 2021 9:16pm, 7 Mar 2021 20,000 posts	0 Rosehip That's interesting, I doubt I've done more than 10/12 miles in one go in park or roadclaws not the current ones anyway- but they have been my everyday shoes for a while. Some models have lasted a lot better than others, but I think my feet cope with them OK - I will bear that in mind though!
Northern Exile Mar 2021 9:26pm, 7 Mar 2021 7,445 posts	0 Northern Exile Don't let me put you off Ros. ParkClaws have a good following .... just over an hour ago I got back from a run with Bobs and she was wearing her ParkClaws, she loves them as they're light and suit her forefoot running style, but she does have to wear a high-arch Sidas orthotic in them. She has the ParkClaw "Knit" btw, the uppers seem to be lasting well.
geordiegirl Mar 2021 10:10pm, 7 Mar 2021 13,687 posts	0 geordiegirl I have park claws not done mega miles but thinking of wearing them for the start of the ultra which is hills and woodland d trail & swapping to vibrams when I hit the coastal part which is road..