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Transgender exercise - Lets Fetch Everyone

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Oct 2023
8:18pm, 6 Oct 2023
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Curly45
Great blog share thanks MudMeanderer.
Oct 2023
2:33am, 7 Oct 2023
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Vixx
I'm currently in Chicago, but am still aware of the various goings on. I have a train of thought (that I am sure someone will prove me wrong at some point with) that people who are anti-Trans, or who are banging that drum have probably never knowingly met a trans person in their lives. Although there are some trans people who are anti-Trans (a bit like some gay people profess to hate LGBT things).

Sunak is using this now to hide whatever other stuff they want to either ditch, or damp down the public questioning on (HS2 anyone?).

And, here in Chicago, nobody seems to care who you are. They did manage to misgender me (essentially twice in a way) as I got my race number for Sunday. I am entered in the non-binary category as it's how I truly identify, but my T-shirt was Male XL (which is totally fine), but considering all the emails I had received in the run up were acknowledging my non-binary identity I had to go and get my information changed as they had me down as Female.

I wanted to say that it was ironic, as I was female last time I was here...
Oct 2023
3:13am, 7 Oct 2023
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UltraDunc
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Apr 2024
5:06pm, 14 Apr 2024
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Raemondo
No shit, Sherlock...


Will the terfs actually STFU now?

Of course not, because their objections were never rational, just based in the misogynist assumption that amab folkx MUST be superior to afab/cis women.
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Apr 2024
5:24pm, 14 Apr 2024
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Vixx
It won't get anywhere near the attention because the ripples/waves from the Cass Report are still going. And I am dealing with numbers of trans people who are worried about that who won't even think about sport.

Shame.
Apr 2024
5:32pm, 14 Apr 2024
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Raemondo
Was the Cass report the one extrapolating a short term study of like 8 non-athletes to (very questionably) claim that trans women 'maintain a masculine physiological advantage' over cis women for an extended period regardless of hormone treatment or changing testosterone levels?

Because fuck that report and anyone who changed their policies because of it, particularly the English RFU.
Apr 2024
5:41pm, 14 Apr 2024
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LindsD
No, the Cass report is the one into the Tavistock/puberty blockers, etc. Really serious implications, especially the way it's being reported.
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5:43pm, 14 Apr 2024
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LindsD
Just to be clear, I haven't read the report, and have no reason to doubt its findings, but find the way it's being reported and weaponised really concerning and it must be very unsettling and worrying if you are trans. Sending strength, Vixx.
Apr 2024
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larkim
As I understand things, that IOC report is very, very flawed (or at best, is very open to proper academic unpicking). Which I know is not the news that many trans women want to hear. But as someone who is broadly "on your side", I think it's fair to point out that relying on flawed science helps no-one.

I will say that I am not a scientist and am not qualified to honestly interpret the report (in particular it's sampling approach) but I do have some faith in those who have broadly rejected it as a piece of credible science.

I won't post links to the critiques of it, because broadly those links will inevitably lead to places where the discussions end up in unpleasant places.
Apr 2024
8:23pm, 14 Apr 2024
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Vixx
Thanks LindsD - appreciate it.

larkim - I have a link to the report, not yet read it. Ultimately I think until another study/report or two is done to either underline what is found, or to prove it wrong, then no-one is going to believe this one anyway.

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A thread about how we can encourage and include people in whatever exercise they are interested in and removing barriers to participation.

Glossary
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This is NOT comprehensive, just some helpful shorthand.
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Gender Identity ≠ Gender Expression ≠ Anatomical Sex ≠ Sexual Orientation

Anatomical sex = The physical aspects that make you fit into a category based on genitals, chromosomes etc i.e. Intersex, Female, Male...
Gender identity = The internal view of gender, the way you see yourself.
Gender expression = The way you present to others externally through clothing, behaviours, language and other social signals.

Sexual orientation = Who you are attracted to.

None of the above are dependent on any of the others, individuals may relate one to another in their specific case, but assuming what one might be based on observation of another is not a sound basis for determination.

Transgender (Trans) = When your gender identity does not match your identity assigned at birth based on anatomical sex.
Cisgender (Cis) = When your gender identity matches your identity assigned at birth based on anatomical sex.
Non Binary (Enby) = When your gender identity doesn't fall into either of the female/male choice. It may exist somewhere on the spectrum between woman and man, either stable of fluctuating between woman-ness and man-ness. This may encapsulate those that may use terms such as genderfluid, agender, demigender et al.

Pronouns = she/her, him/his, them/they etc...
How to refer best to someone else. Really simply, follow their lead. Ask if unsure, be polite. If corrected, it's not a problem unless you repeatedly ignore correction.

Transition = The process somebody goes through to alter their physical attributes to better match their gender identity and expression.

Dysphoria = The distress a person feels due to a mismatch between their gender identity and their sex assigned at birth. Can fluctuate and be experienced at varying degrees.
Dysmorphia = Discomfort with the shape/form of the body. Present in eating disorders and the like, but can often effect transgender people, with triggers such as body hair presence/absence, chest/genital presentation etc.
Deadname - The name a person is assigned at birth, that they no longer use.

Triggers = Things that are known to cause an effect. Typically, X causes a person to experience dysphoria/dysmorphia. Sometimes these can be managed/avoided, other times they are inevitable.

Acronyms:
amab = assigned male at birth (originally born anatomically male)

afab = assigned female at birth (originally born anatomically female)

ftm = female to male transitioner
mtf = male to female transitioner
egg = state of somebody before becoming aware they were transgender i.e. "their egg cracked when they realised and began to emerge"
GIC/GIS = Gender Identity Clinic/Service, providing transition services
GRS = Gender Reassignment Surgery

General notes:
* Not everyone will be comfortable talking about their situation, depending on where they are.
* Not everyone has the language to articulate how they feel, what they want to say. Be patient.
* These things are NOT static, what you encounter in a person today may evolve into something else later.
* Am I trans/cis/enby etc... Frankly, you tell us. Whatever YOU are comfortable with at the time is what we will adopt. It is YOUR identity.
* This language is weird. Yup, and we (CreatureOfTheHill) as a plural system talk strange too, it's OK. We (CreatureOfTheHill) are not "normal", never have been.
* Am I weird/abnormal? Possibly, but it has NOTHING to do with being here or being trans/enby or whatever. People just are in general, and that is OK, we love you for your quirkiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFL5GTKwonQ


Resources:
Genderbread Person genderbread.org
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