The War in Ukraine
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Apr 2022
10:46pm, 4 Apr 2022
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Maccathecracker
Thanks for posting NE, I think I’m surprised, but maybe not, that a thread hasn’t been created on this before. Sadly, I suspect that the horrors emerging are just the tip of the iceberg. I think a lot of people need to look at themselves over this.
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Apr 2022
11:08pm, 4 Apr 2022
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Derby Tup
I was surprised when I saw the thread that we hadn’t had one before, so thanks NE from me too. I am similar to how I was during first few weeks of Covid ie obsessively following various news sources online - BBC, Guardian, Daily Mail and Sky There was an interesting and astute article / opinion piece on the Guardian web that sadly I can’t find now that basically said it’s important (for Ukraine) that the president keep up his high profile with the world’s media to avoid the West getting compassion fatigue |
Apr 2022
8:59am, 5 Apr 2022
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Muttley
RUSI homepage, with some interesting analysis and opinion pieces. rusi.org Much Russian TV has been taken off places like YouTube but if you know the language and really want to have your brains washed, these sites are useful: ontvtime.ru -- live feeds and archive tv-novosti.ru - news bulletins (NE - my understood Russian is pretty fluent but spoken is getting a little rusty) |
Apr 2022
10:25am, 5 Apr 2022
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Northern Exile
Совершенно верно. Как говорят, на днях я понимаю по-русски гораздо лучше чем я говорю 🙂
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Apr 2022
11:45am, 5 Apr 2022
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Northern Exile
Apologies to all by the way, it's rude to post a piece of a foreign language without a translation. That reads: Yes, absolutely. As they say, I understand Russian much better than I speak it nowadays.
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Apr 2022
12:06pm, 5 Apr 2022
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Northern Exile
Just to follow on from Muttley's post, the RUSI homepage is excellent and provides insight from some people with real insight into the way the Russian hierarchy think, they avoid sensationalism and drill down to what's really happening. Lots of ex-spooks contribute to RUSI
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Apr 2022
12:09pm, 5 Apr 2022
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Northern Exile
As an example, I highly recommend this article. Lots of ground truth there. rusi.org |
Apr 2022
12:13pm, 5 Apr 2022
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Muttley
This guy is a good commentator (former colleague of mine, as it happens). Quite hawkish on matters Russian and Putinesque. theguardian.com |
Apr 2022
12:15pm, 5 Apr 2022
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Northern Exile
Here's a little tip for you: The Week magazine offers free reporting on the War in Ukraine if you register with them, there's a very sobering article on their front page right now about how Putin is losing the propaganda war. First few paragraphs: The final text messages from a Russian soldier killed in Ukraine expose the stark difference between the reality on the ground and how the conflict was sold to troops in Moscow, the besieged nation’s UN ambassador has claimed. Has Kyiv fought off Russia’s invasion? How do Russians and Ukrainians feel about war? How Russian media is reporting the Ukraine invasion The unnamed soldier told his mother that Russian troops were “shooting everyone, including civilians”, and that he wanted to “hang” himself, according to ambassador Sergiy Kyslytsya. At a special UN session yesterday on Moscow’s unprovoked invasion, Kyslytsya read out the messages in which the mother asked her son “why have you [not] responded for so long, are you sure you’re on training?” “Mum, I’m in Ukraine,” the soldier replied. “There’s a real war going on here.” In a message reportedly sent just moments before his death, he wrote: “They told us Ukrainians would greet us peacefully, but they are throwing themselves under our machinery, not letting us pass. They call us fascists, Mum.” Other Russian families have told of their “shock” at learning about “the involvement of their loved ones in the invasion of Ukraine” through videos and photographs posted online, The Guardian reported. Ukraine’s Interior Ministry has set up a channel on messaging app Telegram featuring footage and images that allegedly show captured Russian soldiers. The “Find Your Own” channel has reportedly “led to an outcry” from Russian families, who are being urged by Ukrainian officials to “voice their opposition” to the invasion. The sister of a captured injured soldier from a Russian sniper unit told the paper: “I was completely shocked. I had no idea that he was fighting there. “No one needs this, not Ukraine and not Russia. I believe we can come to an agreement through peaceful means so that our sons, brothers and husbands don’t die.” Ukraine’s Ministry of Defence has also founded a hotline named “Come back alive from Ukraine” that has “received hundreds of calls from relatives of the Russian military looking for their loved ones”, The Kyiv Independent media outlet tweeted. |
Apr 2022
1:45pm, 5 Apr 2022
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Eynsham Red
I’d like to add my thanks for starting this thread NE. Thanks to those who have added useful links too. I feel very challenged when reading and watching the news as it’s necessary to know how to filter out what may be propaganda and fake news from both sides. It’s a difficult one. It’s useful to be able to have access to sites like RUSI which focus more on fact. I keep an eye on Aljazeera as well because of its lack of western influence on its reporting. |
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