The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread

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Jan 2023
10:35am, 27 Jan 2023
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riggys99
Looked at my WAVA score for my marathon PB 3:05.52 aged 49 (just pre pandemic) and it was 73.18 so to beat that WAVA score I.e 73.19 in April aged 52 I need to run 3:10:46 which feels achievable.
Jan 2023
10:49am, 27 Jan 2023
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HappyG(rrr)
Wow riggys - nice marathon WAVA. I was 72.8% back in 2013 for my PB. At 54 (June) 3:14:59 will be 72.9%. That was what prompted me to think that sub 3:15 really should be a target for me! :-) G
SPR
Jan 2023
10:54am, 27 Jan 2023
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SPR
I've been a little worried about the cliff over the last season and a half. My last full season (2021 I PBd at 1500 which should suggest no cliff issues but 5000 was a lot of work relative to previous efforts to get close to PB even if highest mileage ever and didn't seem to be able to get to the form around that distance like I used to be able to out of the following winter. Hopefully just form issue and much ado about nothing at least for a few more years.

WAVA is a footnote for me for now although near PB does mean best ever WAVA.
Jan 2023
11:18am, 27 Jan 2023
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B Rubble
Thanks for that HG. My best marathon WAVA was on the same race as you :-). 75.3% would mean I would need to do 3:13, which is not going to happen. I looked at the age I would need to be to plod out a 4 hour marathon for the same WAVA, it was 76!
Jan 2023
12:10pm, 27 Jan 2023
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KinkyS
My best marathon WAVA was 75.57%. To match that now I'd need to do 3:13, which isn't going to happen!

I guess I was just unlucky to hit a series of unfortunate events from 2018-2022 which repeatedly decimated my fitness just I was getting back each time. But lucky in that despite all that, I *can* still run.
jda
Jan 2023
12:42pm, 27 Jan 2023
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jda
Unless I have a nightmare I’ll be getting a wava PB this time round, but it still feels bloody slow!
Jan 2023
1:40pm, 27 Jan 2023
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larkim
I'd need to be a shade over 3:10 to get a mara PB WAVA. Definitely achievable, but only if I've got the conviction to do it. We'll see what April brings...

Read a post on reddit yesterday with a 30yo M who had trained for about a 3:00-3:05, but got cocky on the start line and ran 6:15s for the first 20+ miles and nailed a 2:47. The key was he hadn't raced during the training at all, so had no idea what his mara potential really was. (I'm sure if any of us were him we would have had a better idea of realistic targets).

I wonder what we could achieve if we trained in our usual way, but then had our heads wiped and got given a specific pace target on race day and were told we were well trained to achieve that?
SPR
Jan 2023
1:48pm, 27 Jan 2023
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SPR
People here aren't generally running marathon times well below what their other times show they can run...
Jan 2023
1:49pm, 27 Jan 2023
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HappyG(rrr)
A spectacular blow up for most people! :-) G
jda
Jan 2023
3:13pm, 27 Jan 2023
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jda
LOL larkim, I think most people do that a few times in their career. At least the "starting off quick" bit.

Ye cannae break the laws of physics!

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For those who want to go sub 3.15 in a marathon and/or those that have already done it and want to give advice. Share your journey or help someone else's here.

2024 achievers:
Akie: 3:15 @ Rotterdam
allmatthew: 3:09 @ Manchester
Bowman: 3:01 @ Boras
Mark J: 3:12 @ Christchurch NZ
PJH92: 3:13 @ London

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