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Nov 2020
4:25pm, 2 Nov 2020
12,490 posts
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larkim
Now, now - that's not quite what I said! Junk miles are what I'm running at the moment - grey zone, zone 3, "natural pace" all that nonsense stuff. That goes out the window when I'm following a plan - I do what I'm told because it works!
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Nov 2020
4:35pm, 2 Nov 2020
1,294 posts
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Marchbanks
It’ll be interesting to see what the outcome of tonight’s track session is larkim. Riggys, do you have anything you’re training for atm? Handy you can balance work with family and running.
Cheers guys, will keep you posted on the good, bad and ugly.
The goal used to be a championship start at VLM but not any more, I’d like to get in the top ten for snowdonia marathon one day and ultimately a sub 3 marathon (not at snowdonia!)
I work 4 on 4 off and when I’m ‘on’ Im on call so got to be within 4 minutes of the station with an alerter. It’s a quiet station, so I rarely get interrupted during a run, I can always finish off at the gym in work - I consider myself very luck to be able to do this. The longest run I’ve done on call is 17M.
70mpw sounds like a lot to me too, I have no idea how many miles would get me to 3:15, I’d like to see what I can achieve without putting a figure on it, but that wouldn’t work really.
What strength training do you recommend alongside P&D? I was doing Body Beast but it’s 5 days a week and a bit too much, I’m think 3 days of full body workouts with 5kg-7kg dumbbells, resistance bands and 20kg barbell for legs? I do enjoy insanity but the intensity is like an extra speed session #clueless
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Nov 2020
4:38pm, 2 Nov 2020
36,295 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
MB, you'll get polarised answers on strength and conditioning here! I believe in 2-3 times per week gentle, lightish weights or body weight only, lower body and core. Others do nothing and run faster and less injured. Go figure!
larkim, I only do junk now 
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Nov 2020
4:49pm, 2 Nov 2020
1,295 posts
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Marchbanks
Set myself for asking didn’t I!!
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Nov 2020
5:03pm, 2 Nov 2020
12,491 posts
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larkim
All the really good runners & coaches recommend S&C.
Whether or not people like me ignore that and get by fine without doesn't mean that people like me wouldn't be a lot faster and more injury resilient if we did it though!
I need to think about pace for tonight now. Will be windy, but perhaps try to keep 88s laps going for an honest 3000m pace. Should be OK for the first 4x400, but not sure about the rest!
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Nov 2020
5:07pm, 2 Nov 2020
12,492 posts
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larkim
Just clocked your level of ambition there MB - top 10 at Snowdonia would be rapid, I reckon champs start at London would be a more achievable goal! Nothng like aiming high though!!
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Nov 2020
5:23pm, 2 Nov 2020
1,296 posts
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Marchbanks
Hope the weather isn’t as miserable as it is here where you are Larkin. 3:30 is average time for top 10 women ( I meant against the females).
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Nov 2020
5:24pm, 2 Nov 2020
1,297 posts
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Marchbanks
larkim even.
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Nov 2020
5:33pm, 2 Nov 2020
55 posts
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riggys99
Marchbanks my goal is a marathon in April was going to be Boston Lincolnshire but I am thinking of changing to one on the same date but only 20 mins from home. Won’t be as fast as it’s got quite a bit off road in it.
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Nov 2020
6:16pm, 2 Nov 2020
12,493 posts
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larkim
You know id completely missed the fact that you weren't male!!! Doh!! Appalling presumption on my part!! Sorry!
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