The Environment Thread :-)
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Feb 2022
10:52pm, 9 Feb 2022
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rf_fozzy
Btw, the annual RE auction is a good thing. Perhaps the best thing this government has done. Full stop. bbc.co.uk |
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Feb 2022
10:52pm, 9 Feb 2022
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rf_fozzy
The decision to keep drilling/"exploring" - not good.
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Feb 2022
6:27am, 10 Feb 2022
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JRitchie
Speaking to wind clients the annual auctions are good. But, worries that bottle necks in supply chain come in as number of sanctioned projects rise (especially at ports, installation vessels etc). Oil / gas drilling should be left to naturally cease as they slowly become uneconomic as RE rises. To force termination through legislation will only exacerbate the energy price crisis. |
Feb 2022
8:43am, 10 Feb 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
I don't understand that JR - surely if you stop all oil and gas through legislation, yes, gas prices go up massively, but demand for renewable also goes up, so driving investment to that sector. You wouldn't do it overnight, but e.g. set a target of 5 years from now, all oil and gas extraction in UK will be banned. Also, gas and oil coming into UK will be highly taxed. So driving demand for renewable energy and at same time giving a horizon for ramping up renewable production? Or am I being too simplistic?  G
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Feb 2022
8:51am, 10 Feb 2022
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rf_fozzy
I'd guess it's slightly oversimplisitic Happy, but I'd generally agree with you. I think we should legislate out O&G as fast as *practicably* possible. The profits of the O&G should not be a concern. #1 priority. Stop dangerous climate change. Other other priorities are secondary. People lose sight of this. Fields asked why it's difficult to insulate all houses - this article here: bbc.co.uk I don't think the excuse is good enough, but there are genuine challenges in this sector. Without govt legislation forcing landlords to act, it's going to be difficult. And even then there are knock-on effects. Still - priority #1.... |
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Feb 2022
1:51pm, 10 Feb 2022
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JRitchie
There is already demand for renewables and that is increasing. But that takes time (despite Fozzys posts) and capacity for growth is limited by capacity constraints and the development of offshore floating wind at commercial scale. It will happen but a transition isn’t a cliff edge. As and when large scale floating wind comes in then oil and gas becomes naturally uneconomic. The emphasis should be - on encouraging the development of renewables as quickly as possible - not cutting off supply for power generation. The former is a progressive approach to transition - the latter is regressive. If the Scottish / UK governments supported accelerated land planning consents for cabling and financed port expansion that would have a lot more positive impact on the increase in renewable capacity than blocking exploration. Just my view. |
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Feb 2022
1:53pm, 10 Feb 2022
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JRitchie
If you tax foreign companies oil and gas coming into the UK then the UK consumer picks that up cost not the seller.
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Feb 2022
3:05pm, 11 Feb 2022
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Fields
theguardian.com This, the article says, would reduce UK emissions by 4%. I grew up in a 30s house - they are as a rule well built properties and they're not going to get knocked down any time soon. Cost to do this is estimated at £38 billion - which is less than 20% cost of replacing Trident - which will never be used. If there was the political will - it could be done. Instead it will be scaled down, delayed and while that happens emissions will keep increasing. |
Feb 2022
6:43pm, 11 Feb 2022
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jacdaw
I'm just putting this link in this thread, to a paper about meat eating. I know it is not related to the current discussion, but I avoid this thread these days. Just thought it was an interesting paper. And yes, it supports my viewpoint. sciencedirect.com Slips away again... |
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Feb 2022
2:58pm, 12 Feb 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
Jackdaw why are you avoiding? Thanks for the link. G
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