Sub 80 min Half Marathon Support

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Will M Sep 2012 10:12pm, 24 Sep 2012 965 posts	0 Will M Well good luck DJW, I admire your determination!
Speedie Sep 2012 6:47am, 25 Sep 2012 1,124 posts	0 Speedie Think I'll join in also as it's a big goal of mine moving forward. My time of 80.34 was set 8 years ago and never really thought of any of the distances I race that I would get close to ever again. But while marathon training back in march I used Paddock Wood as a warm up race and ended up running 80.20. After my mararthon in June I had a few months of not much running and in early August started to pick it up again. Week ago I raced Maidenhead Half to see where I was and ran surprisingly well clocking 80.48 so I know I have it in me with more training and my personal goal is to return to Paddock Wood next year and clock 78.xx Hoping here will motivate me over the coming months while watching others along the way - good luck all!
Miser Sep 2012 8:02am, 25 Sep 2012 126 posts	0 Miser I do agree that sub 80 is tougher than sub 3 - though I've not been sub 3! I mainly meant they are both big 'round number' target times. Starting any marathon time with a 2 or talking about a half time with ending in 'teen' is grand. On the hill vs flat intervals, how far are people running on the hill reps? I know it changes the question but, generally, are people more inclined to run further on the flat reps and have shorter recoveries than on hills? Would that be an important factor for HM training?
djwatson74 Sep 2012 9:16am, 25 Sep 2012 363 posts	0 djwatson74 Determination Will or pipe dreams????? Be fun trying thats main thing. Welcome Speedie, is fun on these threads, I joined Sub 90 early this year and really enjoyed seeing others training and race,makes all this that more enjoyable,I think. ............. thinking before i answer that Miser !
STOOSH Sep 2012 9:30am, 25 Sep 2012 1,577 posts	0 STOOSH What i would also add as a beneficial training session is a fartlek on a hilly route - remember doing one last winter where the pace was reasonably high on the flat and downhill and we pushed on every uphill....remeber being gubbed at the end of it..(roughly 9.5m in total) Think when it comes to the reps we tend to vary distances and recoveries on the flat and on hills. On hills the tecovery tends to be the time it takes to get back to the bottom of the hill where on the track it tends to mostly be standing recoveries!! I've done hill reps upto and just beyond the mile - normally 5min recovery Flat can be anything upto 2m reps but hints have been made for a 2x3m reps session....(not looking forward to that) xc season is great for a good hard tempo and will be doing it again this year!!
STOOSH Sep 2012 9:30am, 25 Sep 2012 1,578 posts	0 STOOSH Sorry - don't think that really answers the question:-o
CheekyP Sep 2012 10:16am, 25 Sep 2012 573 posts	0 CheekyP Welcome speedie, looks like you are ripe for a sub 80 clocking. Looks like plenty of quality sessions will be the key. I have 9 or 10 decent x countries which should add plenty of strength, so I'm feeling the Intervals will be the key part for me as we have a great 9-10 mile club tempo every thursday. I am thinking of adding a couple of Ryan Halls Boston Marathon sessions as well. 8 mile tempo, followed by 10x300m hills, lastly 2 miles flat out. Its meant to simulate the last 2 miles of a Fully, but surely cant hurt in the sub 80 half quest. What sort of total weekly mileage are you good people looking to cover? Good point about being at your runners peak Will M , I'm about 5 years running but only 2 seriously. Is that 6-7 years seriously training or just getting out the door. (I would consider serious training 50+ miles a week).
FurryFeet Sep 2012 10:53am, 25 Sep 2012 925 posts	0 FurryFeet Miser , if you get the long runs in, then sub-3:00 should be yours for the taking. Your PBs (with the exception of 10M and Full-M are faster than mine), so by London you should be flying. STOOSH good points about the hill reps having a forced recovery length and flat intervals being more flexible. Cheeky - Although Oxford half is my A-race, I also have Beachy, so have been getting in long runs at the weekend (and presumably sacrificing some speed). However, I've just completed three weeks of ~65miles.
djwatson74 Sep 2012 1:35pm, 25 Sep 2012 364 posts	0 djwatson74 Hill Reps that I do, think I might have said this before are always at the start of a training plan for `Base Strength` then closer to the race intervals. Still dont think I have ever put a Fartlek session together, just dont get it? That said my slpits do change a bit, so maybe I am? Anyone have any good ideais about this?
Will M Sep 2012 6:26pm, 25 Sep 2012 966 posts	0 Will M The first one cheeky. My point is that if you haven't quite broke a target despite consistently training hard then you need to look for minor tweaks eg hills v reps might actually make the difference. If like me (or you it sounds) you don't have the consistent mileage base and you are already close then its just a case of generally training well.