So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

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Dec 2014
3:00pm, 29 Dec 2014
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Pizza Boy
Sorry to but in but I have a question now you mention salbutamol velociraptor.

I've only recently been given a blue inhaler due to finally being persuaded wheezing and breathlessness for no apparant reason isn't a healthy sign in an athlete. It can also be triggered by cold air etc.

It's been asked by fellow athletes whether or not the salbutamol gives any added advantage over others due to expanding the surface area of the lungs. I.e surely it can't only open the airways to the exact "normal" point and so may go beyond what is "normal" thus could be giving an advantage of how much O2 can enter?

On another note my GP was talking about a possible steroid inhaler in a few months time after further assessment but I wasn't sure whether I can take this IAAF laws etc can anyone fill me in on that?
Dec 2014
3:23pm, 29 Dec 2014
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Velociraptor
Pizza Boy, there's absolutely no benefit to be had for a "normal" non-asthmatic person by taking salbutamol, and the dose in an inhaler is tiny. Clenbuterol is different as it has effects which could potentially be performance-enhancing in other ways, which is why one isn't banned and the other is.

Steroid inhalers for asthma aren't banned by any of the drug regulating authorities nowadays as far as I know.
Dec 2014
3:27pm, 29 Dec 2014
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MudMeanderer
PB, UKAD has the following WADA based guidelines. It looks like most steroid based inhalers are fine if used as manufacturer recommends. Could take this list to docs if concerned.

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Dec 2014
4:37pm, 29 Dec 2014
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Pizza Boy
Ahh very interesting thank-you both of you.

If there isn't any benefit to be had why is there a threshold limit on Salbutamol before it becomes "doping"?
Dec 2014
4:45pm, 29 Dec 2014
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Velociraptor
I assume it's because, in theory, it's a stimulant, although if you take too much salbutamol you're more likely to get the shakes than to run faster.

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9:42am, 23 Jan 2015
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fitzer
Does this mean the are looking at Sky.

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Jan 2015
1:47pm, 23 Jan 2015
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SPR
No, he wasn't there long enough.
Jan 2015
6:15pm, 26 Jan 2015
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fitzer
Prick, Liar, Cheat.

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6:17pm, 26 Jan 2015
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Velociraptor
That's probably the first truth he's told in his entire cycling career :)
Jan 2015
10:09pm, 26 Jan 2015
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JulesR
I'm a bit confused why the BBC has decided to interview Lance - is there any demand to hear about how he cheated or would cheat any more?

Aren't the BBC a couple of years out of date if they're trying to be 'investigative' or is there a brand new Lance angle that merits a story that I'm just not 'getting'?

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