So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

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Bazoaxe Oct 2012 10:01pm, 10 Oct 2012 4,783 posts	0 Bazoaxe There is no doubt now. Thus should have been published when they originally stripped his titles though as it removes any doubt. If I was Armstrong I would seriously think about coming clean now. No point continuing to pretend it didn't happen
The_Saint Oct 2012 10:04pm, 10 Oct 2012 5,425 posts	0 The_Saint Agreed, any decent PR advice would have said that the earlier the admission and remorse, the sooner it ends, its almost never the offence that is the real problem, its the denials and cover-ups
SPR Oct 2012 10:58pm, 10 Oct 2012 17,553 posts	0 SPR Saint - Spot on, especially when he is held as the clean cyclist in a team of unclean riders, who is heriocally defeating the other doped up riders. I've missed this all day, so I am catching up now.
Yorkshire Pie Oct 2012 6:15am, 11 Oct 2012 10,532 posts	0 Yorkshire Pie LA trying to say that it's not a "reasoned decision" and is just the prosecution case. Well, yes but you had the right to dispute it and chose not to, your choice. Looks rather damning from a read of the contents and the summary.
Keefy Beefy Oct 2012 7:38am, 11 Oct 2012 7,883 posts	0 Keefy Beefy I knew he was a doper when it was reported he took something like 17 gels in that NYC marathon he did after quitting cycling.
Bazoaxe Oct 2012 9:11am, 11 Oct 2012 4,784 posts	0 Bazoaxe doper or dope ? 17 gels,,,,yeurgh
The Teaboy Oct 2012 9:34am, 11 Oct 2012 1,864 posts	0 The Teaboy I just hope this is a watershed moment in anti-doping in sport. With Armstrong being brought down it sends a message that no name is bigger than any sport. There are plenty more very high-profile sportsmen and women who have broken the rules, and many (very strong) rumours as to who they are (Nadal, Barcelona FC etc...). Cycling has had the guts (despite the UCI - McQuaid and Verbruggen have to go after this) to start clearing house. Other sports MUST do the same. Notice that Leipheimer admitted doping through the 2007 Tour. This now throws Contador's win into even more question. I simply can't believe Bruyneel didn't have his star man on the juice.
Derby Tup Oct 2012 9:44am, 11 Oct 2012 2,939 posts	0 Derby Tup I hope you're right Teaboy about a watershed moment Re: LA, my feeling is he'll always deny it. He will revert back to the hundreds of drug tests he passed and hope that enough folk believe (in) him to enable him to continue with a credible Livestrong Foundation
The Teaboy Oct 2012 9:47am, 11 Oct 2012 1,865 posts	0 The Teaboy Err, yes. The foundation. Which does less than people think...
fitzer Oct 2012 10:04am, 11 Oct 2012 2,955 posts	0 fitzer Unbelievable, I thought it would be bad, but not quite as bad as this