So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

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Winded Oct 2016 2:39pm, 8 Oct 2016 4,773 posts	0 Winded A bike team needs a log showing which boxes it moved around had chains or cogs or tape or chamois cream or antiseptic ointment or tubular bandages or some stuff to treat a saddle sore but it's ok not to log it if it was chucked in the back of the bus before they set off on tour? If you guys say so then perhaps that is right but it seems very odd to me. Further if it is a box of bandages and plasters and ointments they need to list the stuff? I just find that idea depressing. A British Cycling coach caries a box from team sky instead of using a commercial courier - well they worked from the same place in Manchester so I imagine similar things happened very frequently. It could be dodgy but without further information there is nothing about it that suggests anything one way or another. The "oh you can't/won't say so you must be a drugs cheat" insinuation doesn't sit very well with me. Bike riders use all sorts of stuff that could be called medical and sit in a cupboard back at the team base - getting someone to bring something out with them when they come was probably commonplace. Or they may have needed some freshly brewed and illegal go-faster potion - but "you carried a box" is a long way from "drugs cheat."
The Teaboy Oct 2016 9:41pm, 8 Oct 2016 14,725 posts	0 The Teaboy But they don't use Emma Pooley as a cover when she was actually 700 miles away in Spain.
Winded Oct 2016 1:31pm, 9 Oct 2016 4,785 posts	0 Winded Did they do that? - That does sound a bit wrong doesn't it.
Velociraptor Oct 2016 2:06pm, 9 Oct 2016 34,640 posts	0 Velociraptor If that turns out to be what they did and not a made-up thing (and at the moment, it could all be a made-up thing, it's not as if the DM doesn't have form in making up stories that don't have a grain of factual basis) that would be very disappointing. And far, far too close to USPS's shenanigans for comfort.
Chrisull Oct 2016 10:30pm, 9 Oct 2016 9,976 posts	0 Chrisull The Sky inhouse lap dog David Walsh turned on them today in the Sunday Times, after insisting they're purer than the driven snow: thetimes.co.uk He thinks they have to answer this, and can't just duck it.
Derby Tup Aug 2017 10:13pm, 4 Aug 2017 23,361 posts	0 Derby Tup Is there any sport untainted by drugs? What can we believe in? Athletics is little better if at all than that wrestling that used to be on World of Sport in the 70's. Football? Who's bothered?
The Teaboy Aug 2017 10:47pm, 4 Aug 2017 15,075 posts	0 The Teaboy If Kyle Walker costing £50M didn't turn you off then this whole Neymar business shows football has just eaten itself. Really don't care anymore. Trying to think of sports that aren't tainted. Struggling. I might settle for test cricket although I suspect a few sluggers have had the odd steroid or two. I'll still watch a load of sport knowing full well most are juiced and just enjoy it for the macabre spectacle it is. I'm so used to it all being bent having had my illusions shattered in the 80s and 90s, that I don't care any more. TBH now its the hypocrisy of it all that pisses me off more...
Derby Tup Aug 2017 11:01pm, 4 Aug 2017 23,364 posts	0 Derby Tup ^ good post Teaers Michael Vaughan was talking this afternoon on TMS about some of his mates "staying in Blackpool tonight" before a discussion of ice cream and chips. Cricket (I can remember listening to David Steele against Australia on the radio) is the best for me
Derby Tup Dec 2017 8:06am, 13 Dec 2017 24,012 posts	0 Derby Tup Sky - the end
Too Much Water Dec 2017 8:19am, 13 Dec 2017 6,390 posts	0 Too Much Water Guess his meagre chance of being Sports Personality of the Year just ended. Is he Kenyan yet?