POSE running

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Theboybarry
Take it easy Ian. Hope it goes well on the shin.
Apr 2009
12:18pm, 17 Apr 2009
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I couldn't be arsed, but since you asked nicely.
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Apr 2009
12:44pm, 17 Apr 2009
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Thanks TBB

AA, thanks for the link. I think I understand now. I was kinda scuppered by getting the feeling that the shoulders up in the air thing was bullshit despite me wanting to believe it. The weight lifting analogy makes more sense to me...
Apr 2009
12:54pm, 17 Apr 2009
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As long as you get it, doesn't matter the image.
Apr 2009
12:54pm, 17 Apr 2009
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nrg-b ॐ
Ian: Have you ever walked over hot sand or pavement when on holiday? Or maybe whilst barefoot you've stood on something a bit sharp? To change support, instead of pushing down and stepping harder onto the ground you will momentarily use your whole upper body starting with perhaps a slight shoulder/arm lift to unweiight the upper body with which you can pull your leg up as you quickly switch to support to the other leg. Just my opinion & observation.
Apr 2009
12:59pm, 17 Apr 2009
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NRG, it was just about how it was described that didn't click with me but I now see it's a bit like skipping. Problem is with me is that I have started doing stuff one way then convincing myself that actually it is completely different. I do this a million times then realise actually that I stopped myself from doing what I used to do in the first place quite naturally!

I have felt this unweighting when running off road an hitting sharp stones, tree roots etc. I withdraw support very quickly before I have time to get the other support there. It's like a half step sort of feeling...

It's the old creeping up on someone analogy...
Apr 2009
1:00pm, 17 Apr 2009
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I do realise that my biggest mistake is trying to control stuf rather than just letting stuff happen.

I have been Pose walking all morning and it feels good. :-)
Apr 2009
1:03pm, 17 Apr 2009
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simbil
Interesting views on the unweighting, I think it is all about finding a way that works for you and then not over analysing.

The hot sand / sharp stone unweighting does not work for me personally, as that make me release downwards i.e. fall a bit and then take support with the other foot.
The new unweighting from the clinic works very well for me - start the movement at the head/shoulders rather than the feet makes it a more integrated, quick and light movement for me personally.
Apr 2009
1:21pm, 17 Apr 2009
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I remember when I started running many moons ago. At first I actually ran very bloody efficiently helped on by working from BOF etc in martial arts and prefering barefeet anyway. I slowly started to move away from it think I was getting faster and better but infact got worse. When I got round to pushing my way back to running naturally again I was on the fecking floor going batshit that I was there in the first place. Was a case of experience, one has to know the extremes to strike a balance and all that. If you don't know the wrong, you can't know the right. Hindsight is a bitch :-)
Apr 2009
1:26pm, 17 Apr 2009
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Shoes never helped, bloody things, they were one of the reasons I started to move away from natural running, felt so different but due to reasons I shan't say I had to wear some form of trainer and it pissed me off :-)

About This Thread

Maintained by cabletow
If you want to get people to watch you running - you need to video yourself using your mobile phone or digital camera. Side on, full length for a few strides, is sufficient. Use a cloud storage system as discussed here

http://www.fetcheveryone.com/viewtopic.php?id=47880
And share the file with a coach or coaches for constructive comment, either in private or on the thread if you dare.

Ok and article about POSE Method and running
tigwigs.force9.co.uk

Ians Article - worth a read if you are having trouble "getting it" - ianm1963.wordpress.com

As requested common acronyms used in this thread
GCM = General Centre of Mass

COG = Centre of Gravity
GCM = COG for the most part
BOF = Ball of foot - the feshy bit just under and slightly heelward of the big toe joint
ROM = Range of movement of the knees, or feet
BW = Body weight
ME = Muscular elasticity
COS = Change of support
GRF = Ground reaction force
FFS = It is not that hard dingbat

Pose drills as they should be done
http://www.fetcheveryone.com/article-view.php?id=306

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