5 Feb
1:10pm, 5 Feb 2025
18,425 posts
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jda
The idea that the “plan” is anything more thought-through than siphoning money off to the likes of Halliburton and Trumpco seems a bit naive.
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5 Feb
1:13pm, 5 Feb 2025
46,984 posts
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SPR
Trump has to be judged on what he says AND does. Saying he wants to basically turn Gaza into a holiday camp and forcibly displace Palestinians is diabolical. I guess we know why he was keen on a ceasefire now. |
5 Feb
1:19pm, 5 Feb 2025
16,253 posts
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Ally-C
He’s the most powerful man in the world and debases everything. A scumbag sex offender, racist, liar & misogynist. What kind of standard does that set for the rest of us? |
5 Feb
1:21pm, 5 Feb 2025
7,402 posts
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paulcook
SPR wrote: I guess we know why he was keen on a ceasefire now. Like I said, I read this idea weeks ago. It might have been conspiracy bs, but whatever it's come true. It's just all sickening really. |
5 Feb
1:22pm, 5 Feb 2025
23,550 posts
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rf_fozzy
But, but, but, but...where are all those far lefties saying that they couldn't vote for Biden because Trump was better for Gaza.
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5 Feb
1:25pm, 5 Feb 2025
26,565 posts
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larkim
jda wrote: The idea that the “plan” is anything more thought-through than siphoning money off to the likes of Halliburton and Trumpco seems a bit naive. I do agree with this btw. |
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5 Feb
1:26pm, 5 Feb 2025
46,985 posts
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SPR
Well the ceasefire is in place and they are returning currently so I'm not sure this announcement is cause for victory laps. It's more a rock and a hard place at this point.
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5 Feb
2:21pm, 5 Feb 2025
10,039 posts
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simbil
SPR wrote: Trump has to be judged on what he says AND does. Saying he wants to basically turn Gaza into a holiday camp and forcibly displace Palestinians is diabolical. I guess we know why he was keen on a ceasefire now. That's judging Trump by sane standards though. If you judge him instead as someone who says many crazy things but is only really serious about some of them, then it becomes easier to see through the heavy handed posturing to what the likely real goals are. I could be wrong of course, but I would bet large amounts that we will not see the US occupy Gaza and displace local people because it is not really something he wants to do, it's just something he wants to threaten. Same with 51st state Canada, Greenland and Panama. |
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5 Feb
2:26pm, 5 Feb 2025
10,040 posts
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simbil
J2R wrote: Really? Can you see Congress standing up to anything Trump wants at the moment? I can't. Yes, like they did last time around by introducing bipartisan motions to stop Trump withdrawing from NATO without congressional assent. There will be a bunch of Republicans who don't like Trump and others looking beyond Trump and I doubt inheriting the ethnic cleansing of Gaza is something they'd want to walk into. |
5 Feb
3:00pm, 5 Feb 2025
22,634 posts
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Chrisull
There is no going back.. This V "And so the president’s opponents, whoever they are, cannot expect a return to the Constitution as it was. Whatever comes next, should the country weather this attempted hijacking, will need to be a fundamental rethinking of what this system is and what we want out of it." nytimes.com |
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