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2 Feb
12:14pm, 2 Feb 2025
33,635 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Trump's entire life has been based around "punching back twice as hard" when he's attacked, so I can only see this escalating now.
Odds on him doing a Liz Truss if the markets collapse? Low, but not zero, I'd say. Tomorrow will be interesting. Uncharted waters now.
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2 Feb
12:23pm, 2 Feb 2025
5,803 posts
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J2R
Not sure what you mean by 'doing a Liz Truss', JB? He's not going to resign (he's more likely to actually declare war on Canada). And also, if he does resign, we just get J D Vance, don't we? I don't see there's any possibility of the insanity coming to an end until 2028, and let's just hope there are free and fair elections then.
I must say I've been one of the most alarmist voices about Trump on here and various others have suggested he won't be as bad as feared after he's elected, but I'm absolutely not reassured so far. Yes, he is doing the mad things he said he was going to do. Why is anyone surprised?
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2 Feb
12:39pm, 2 Feb 2025
33,636 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I suppose I mean fucking up so royally that he loses the confidence of everyone around him and jacks it in. Highly unlikely but never say never and all that.
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2 Feb
12:41pm, 2 Feb 2025
33,637 posts
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Johnny Blaze
He's not behaving like someone who thinks he or the GOP is ever going to face electoral accountability and that's for sure.
Democracy is falling apart in real time over there. The question now is whether the people will rise up before it's too late.
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2 Feb
12:45pm, 2 Feb 2025
26,471 posts
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Dave W
We can but hope.
But Vance is an effing idiot as well.
Quite ironic that they have been saying that AirTrafficControllers have to be the brightest of the bright. Not exactly shining examples of high IQ themselves.
You have to be very clever to be an ATC but not to be a Republican politician.
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2 Feb
12:48pm, 2 Feb 2025
33,210 posts
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macca 53
The US has always had tariffs tbf - our products had 6.3% - I spent loads of time working out how to partially convert them to make them tariff free. Most countries have tariffs, not usually on everything, especially on things that are adequately supplied by domestic producers.
The EU also spent years introducing a registration, evaluation and authorisation system for chemicals to specifically prevent (mainly the Indian and Chinese) low cost, low quality untested products from coming into the EU. It was an unapologetically protectionist system.
Ah- they were the days….
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2 Feb
1:14pm, 2 Feb 2025
31,437 posts
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richmac
Report in the guardian that the oil tariffs will put up prices at the pump, for Americans. Who'da thought Trumps policy may back fire.
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2 Feb
3:00pm, 2 Feb 2025
5,804 posts
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J2R
That'll be Biden's fault, though.
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2 Feb
3:17pm, 2 Feb 2025
31,443 posts
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richmac
Trump saying that the pain [from tariffs]will be worth it, presumably for the protection from migrants etc.
Does this remind you of any political campaign, say from 2016?
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2 Feb
3:20pm, 2 Feb 2025
548 posts
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DaveG
Impeachment will be the outcome if he totally crashes the economy.
He's certainly creating instability in the markets. Journalists should be looking into who has shorted the stocks which fall the most and if there's patterns in that. If there's insider trading going on that's a huge story.
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