12 Sep
1:41pm, 12 Sep 2024
25,572 posts
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larkim
I can't disagree that his elevation to editor following working directly with the proprietor looks like he got at least some benefit from personal relationships. But it's wrong to say he leapt from Ch5 straight through to the Lebedev roles.
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12 Sep
1:41pm, 12 Sep 2024
33,094 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Heathrow even.
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12 Sep
1:44pm, 12 Sep 2024
23,033 posts
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rf_fozzy
larkim wrote: I can't disagree that his elevation to editor following working directly with the proprietor looks like he got at least some benefit from personal relationships. But it's wrong to say he leapt from Ch5 straight through to the Lebedev roles. I think this is a slightly pollyannaish view, sorry. |
12 Sep
2:19pm, 12 Sep 2024
22,116 posts
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Chrisull
Not sure anyone was predicting what was happening in 2029, but if Labour don't offer something they will be a one term government. If they offer something, they may well get more. They've not even done their first budget yet, so who knows.
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12 Sep
2:25pm, 12 Sep 2024
25,573 posts
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larkim
rf_fozzy wrote: pollyannaish So you're factually wrong, and I'm the one spinning a pollyanna-ish view? What bit of him working actually at the newspaper, prior to Lebedev's involvement, to a relatively senior level and one which was being well received at the time, with one of the smallest journalist teams on Fleet Street, means that over a career from 2007 to 2024 that the four and half years he spent working directly with Lebedev means his entire career is down to that four and a half year period? Maybe I'm putting words in your mouth about his entire career being down to that period. Nonetheless, he got his role with Lebedev based on (presumably) his track record to that point. He got the editorial job no doubt down in part to the way he had worked with Lebedev; that's utterly unsurprising. Thereafter though he has spent 8 years with the BBC. Is that all attributable to Russian influence, or is it, perhaps, more evidence of actual talent in his job? |
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12 Sep
2:49pm, 12 Sep 2024
23,034 posts
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rf_fozzy
What's factually incorrect? He got the job as editor due to patronage from Lebedev. That's my entire point. But what he's done since has flowed from that patronage |
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12 Sep
2:50pm, 12 Sep 2024
23,035 posts
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rf_fozzy
You have too kind a view of people at times. A little more cynicism required!
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12 Sep
3:04pm, 12 Sep 2024
22,009 posts
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Dave W
Disgraced Tory donor Frank Hester gave party £5m days before election. Money well spent, eh Frank? Bravo. |
12 Sep
3:09pm, 12 Sep 2024
46,090 posts
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SPR
It's not like he's going to miss the money, and he clearly thought the Tories were the best way to advance the type of views he holds (and is likely correct). He may switch to Reform if they get a proper foothold at some point.
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12 Sep
3:10pm, 12 Sep 2024
22,117 posts
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Chrisull
re: larkim needing more cynicism (ditto on cyclists on drugs) Anyway - here's Rory Stewart attacking Starmer (though he doesn't explicitly mention him or Labour, but context) from the left: x.com "Politicians cannot keep pretending that we can deliver the NHS services that people expect without raising taxes - and that includes taxes on median earners…" |
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