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Jun 2024
6:05pm, 30 Jun 2024
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paulcook
Think I’d happily invite any canvassers in for coffee and cakes. Even if just to waste their time entirely. But I can appreciate how difficult a job they must do so I would promise to be civil in my time wasting!
Jun 2024
6:13pm, 30 Jun 2024
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Johnny Blaze
It does seem like there are numerous important advantages to being HM Opposition.

- 6 questions at PMQs

- Automatic regular media coverage from the BBC and other outlets with a "balance" requirement

- 17 Opposition Days to set agenda and hold votes

- Extra Short Money (almost £1 million)

- First right to reply to King's Speech and Budget

- More media coverage in debates

- Privy council membership for senior figures

- Office of the Leader of the Opposition with extra resources

If the LD became the official opposition the Tories would become more and more irrelevant. One step closer to the woodchipper.

My son is an ardent Green activist but he is going to vote Lib Dem in Stratford to do his bit to stake the Tories.
Jun 2024
6:39pm, 30 Jun 2024
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simbil
"Liam Booth-Isherwood, who was standing in Erewash, said he is suspending his campaign and backing the Tory candidate Maggie Throup to win the seat."

Reform candidate disowns his party.
Jun 2024
6:40pm, 30 Jun 2024
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richmac
Lol, they unravel all quickly
Jun 2024
7:16pm, 30 Jun 2024
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Chrisull
French exit polls and it’s closer than expected. Phew not great but I think the overall majority will be denied Here are the estimates from IFOP:

Far right National Rally: 34.2%

Leftwing New Popular Front: 29.1%

Emmanuel Macron’s allies Together: 21.5%
Jun 2024
9:36pm, 30 Jun 2024
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Fields
So the centrists do need to back the left
Jun 2024
10:41pm, 30 Jun 2024
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Johnny Blaze
Tories+Reform next time. Farage as leader? We are heading the same way.
Jun 2024
10:42pm, 30 Jun 2024
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Fields
More people in suits being fascist

theguardian.com
SPR
Jun 2024
10:54pm, 30 Jun 2024
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SPR
Glad to see Starmer understands the potential issue regarding the right and the correct solution IMO: theguardian.com
Jun 2024
11:52pm, 30 Jun 2024
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rf_fozzy
I am considering dropping my prediction range.

I had thought 85-115 Tory seats (modal value 100) was a median range estimate, but I'm now having doubts that it could be as low as 60ish.

Because of (a) how bad Sunak has been and (b) Farage standing to amplify the brexiter vote concentration

The uncertainty is how much of the very vocal brexiter lot will turnout and vote for reform.

It's difficult to say.

There is some minor chatter that pollsters may be slightly hedging against bigger labour wins (and hence bigger Tory wipeouts) because of a concern things are breaking their models. (Understandable given this is likely to be an unprecedented event).

I think I should stick with my original commitment, but I'd like it on the record that I would now not be surprised if it were lower than 50seats.

If anything, you could say, I am extending my range downwards to 50 -115 seats but still with a modal value of 100

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