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Nov 2022
12:39pm, 17 Nov 2022
13,797 posts
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jda
Full EU membership isn't really the point for me. I'd vote for any major party that intended to rejoin the single market. Potentially including the tories, if labour were opposed.
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Nov 2022
1:10pm, 17 Nov 2022
7,487 posts
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Fields
Still can find 2% of GDP to spend on killing people. That will provide comfort to those who choose between heating and eating this winter.
Meanwhile planet remain on this thread only wants to rejoin the EU to give access to cheaper labour which will clearly not help the struggling working classes anywhere
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Nov 2022
1:23pm, 17 Nov 2022
22,237 posts
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DeeGee
Not being an employer, I'm not sure how access to cheaper Labour would be something I hanker for.
Having straightforward access to a potential job market of 163 million jobs seems like a pretty decent bonus to me.
Then again, I've used my free movement rights in the past, so I'd see that.
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Nov 2022
1:28pm, 17 Nov 2022
1,499 posts
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fuzzyduck79
Scotland and Wales might ask to join the EU by 2030, I'd expect England to be left in the corner still shouting like a pub drunk that we're better off without any friends, and actually the NHS wasn't that great anyway, we much prefer privatised health care like they have in the US
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Nov 2022
1:35pm, 17 Nov 2022
2,066 posts
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paulcook
and actually the NHS wasn't that great anyway, we much prefer privatised health care like they have in the US
I'm wondering how much people realise will change (because I don't have a clue), but I'm instantly thinking even something simple like regular medication will start to set back a lot of people straightaway.
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Nov 2022
1:47pm, 17 Nov 2022
197 posts
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Boffin
Leaving the EU was the single most stupid decision ever taken by the electorate IMHO.
However, that is democracy in action, and more people thought it better to leave.
The egg has been cracked and there is no amount of sticky tape is going to put the egg back in the shell.
Rejoining will remain an option, although I suspect the terms will be far less favourable than we originally had - cant see that going down well with anyone.
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Nov 2022
2:05pm, 17 Nov 2022
20,188 posts
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richmac
Still can find 2% of GDP to spend on killing people. That will provide comfort to those who choose between heating and eating this winter. Meanwhile planet remain on this thread only wants to rejoin the EU to give access to cheaper labour which will clearly not help the struggling working classes anywhere
It'll help by making the economy function, you know when there are enough workers to make things and get thing to the shops so that the shortages caused by Brexit don't continue to cause higher prices,
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Nov 2022
2:37pm, 17 Nov 2022
2,556 posts
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Canute
Meanwhile planet remain on this thread only wants to rejoin the EU to give access to cheaper labour which will clearly not help the struggling working classes anywhere
I suspect that Remainers had various reasons for voting to Remain. My preference for Remain was not based on access to cheaper labour. It was based, in part, on maintaining access for UK residents to jobs and other life-enhancing opportunities in the EU. Equally important in my view that being in the EU gave UK businesses easier access to EU markets. Such access to markets increases the likely success of UK business, preserving jobs in the UK and helping keep the price of goods in UK shops at a reasonable level. These benefits of EU membership were a benefit to the UK population as a whole, including working people.
More generally, the freedom of movement of people and of goods offered benefits to residents of all EU countries.
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Nov 2022
2:50pm, 17 Nov 2022
13,798 posts
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jda
It will also give the 5% unemployed (yeah right that’s a valid statistic) a chance of finding a better future for themselves elsewhere.
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Nov 2022
2:52pm, 17 Nov 2022
13,799 posts
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jda
Science-wise SM membership also helped to position the UK as a science superpower perhaps second only to the USA.
Of course that’s just elitism, better we reopen the coal mines instead. Onwards and downwards, comrades!
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