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Oct 2022
9:24am, 21 Oct 2022
22,187 posts
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DeeGee
Also: why does anyone with any sense think the Tories can run an online election with 3 days notice and expect it to be kosher? This is the new PM and they are running the election like a Twitter poll.
What's getting me is how the party faithful can apparently happily take part in an online election, but still struggle with decimal currency and the metric system.
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Oct 2022
9:25am, 21 Oct 2022
1,414 posts
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fuzzyduck79
There's definitely some (MPs and voters) who think Johnson was unfairly ganged up on by his own cabinet and junior ministers. Ben Wallace said he had no time for their "parlour games"
Another point to note, those defending not calling a GE can point out that Johnson won the majority that the Tories currently enjoy so it gives them a weasel excuse to keep trucking on when the most recent polls suggest they are now on ~15% and projected to hold no seats at all.
You can already hear Rees-Mogg sagely explaining it all to us oiks.
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Oct 2022
9:33am, 21 Oct 2022
28,719 posts
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Johnny Blaze
My best hope is that:
1 The buffoon doesn't get 100 votes - job done
2 If he does, that's his peak. Sunak gets "the rest" and Bozo concludes he can never make work when he has less than a third of MPs backing him.
"We all" know that if his vanity compels him to continue and he gets in on a members' vote we are in for another shitshow, but he is such a preening nincompoop with such a mistaken sense of his own competence I wouldn't put it past him.
In which case the Tories will be utterly destroyed at the next election. Good.
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Oct 2022
9:34am, 21 Oct 2022
19,388 posts
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larkim
Also: why does anyone with any sense think the Tories can run an online election with 3 days notice and expect it to be kosher? This is the new PM and they are running the election like a Twitter poll. What's getting me is how the party faithful can apparently happily take part in an online election, but still struggle with decimal currency and the metric system.
I think we're in danger of straying beyond reality here. It's perfectly possible to get a suitably valid vote done like this, there are plenty of companies out there that can facilitate it well enough. And whilst I'm sure there are some complete luddites out there in the Tory party membership there'll be tiny numbers who might be disenfranchised by this.
If we were happy with paper ballots etc being a valid way of them selecting our PM (!), then the digital route should present no additional problems. Beyond the obvious one THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS VIA A GENERAL ELECTION!!!
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Oct 2022
9:37am, 21 Oct 2022
1,909 posts
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paulcook
Except the Tories are the one who have brought in additional ID required to vote at a general elction. They've gone entirely the other way in terms of a general election.
*Not at all because it suits them. No, not at all.
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Oct 2022
9:40am, 21 Oct 2022
38,609 posts
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SPR
Presumably you'd have to log in so there's 'ID'. In a GE in theory, you can turn up and vote as someone else.
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Oct 2022
9:44am, 21 Oct 2022
28,720 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Larkim, Tortoise media have literally registered a tortoise as a voting Tory member. I'm not buying it for one second.
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Oct 2022
9:44am, 21 Oct 2022
1,415 posts
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fuzzyduck79
I do think there is scope for the electronic vote (which might not happen) to become another farce, accusations of hacking one possibility but also a handful of members shouting that they couldn't lodge their votes, it's all a scam etc
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Oct 2022
9:46am, 21 Oct 2022
28,721 posts
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Johnny Blaze
If you register as a Tory member (foreigners, tortoises allowed) what forms of ID are demanded? If there's no KYC checks then it's not much better than a Twitter ID.
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Oct 2022
9:46am, 21 Oct 2022
38,610 posts
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SPR
Larkim, Tortoise media have literally registered a tortoise as a voting Tory member. I'm not buying it for one second.
And someone could physically vote for the tortoise if it was in person so the online portion isn't the issue there.
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