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May 2022
9:02am, 31 May 2022
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Johnny Blaze
bloomberg.com

"British pound risks existential crisis."

The chaos Bozo has visited and continues to visit upon us could yet get worse. He has to go, and as soon as possible.

We want serious people to address our many problems - as opposed to clinging on to the architect of those problems in the deluded belief that he has any solutions at all beyond, "How much do I need to spend today to get on top of the latest negative press?"

This sort of thing and the continuing code of silence about Brexit's disastrous consequences are leading us to rack and ruin.
May 2022
9:03am, 31 May 2022
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Johnny Blaze
“Whilst not wishing to over-exaggerate GBP’s predicament as some kind of ‘end-of-days’ scenario, we are concerned that the increasing politicization of UK policy undermines the GBP in ways that would appear EM-like,” Sharma wrote in a note. “We sense something is changing in the UK, with the BOE increasingly hard to decipher and less transparent; a failure to discuss and acknowledge that Brexit has been a significant headwind to the supply side; and a sense that the BOE is losing control over its mandate.”
May 2022
9:19am, 31 May 2022
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Dave W
When Labour get in next, it will probably be at the head of a coalition.

They should immediately set about getting rid of first past the post, and bring in proportional representation. This should be a firm commitment, and should be part of their manifesto, and the Lib Dems.

That way, everybody's vote counts, and with their declining vote share across the UK as a whole, the Tories would never get to form a Government again. That would be so f**king great, we could then have a nationwide party.

It is shortsighted in the extreme to allow any sort of voting mechanism that lets a party "Govern" with a small percentage of the overall vote.

Voting should also be made compulsory.
May 2022
9:21am, 31 May 2022
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Mushroom
I tend to agree with voting being mandatory - but I'd like an option to tick 'none of the above' - then a rerun with new candidates.
May 2022
9:32am, 31 May 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
The analysis on radio as late as yesterday pm was that even if a no confidence vote is triggered sooner rather than later, there is a risk that

a. Johnson could still win it by 1 and would stay
b. that means he can't challenged again for 12 months
c. the really bad news might come out in October from the Privileges committee and this insulates him from that.

Or did I misunderstand. A NC vote NOW might actually SUIT Johnson? :-) G
May 2022
9:35am, 31 May 2022
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3M (aka MarkyMarkMark)
At the moment, that feels a depressingly long way off, Dave W.

Definitely the whole voting/electoral system needs radical overhaul. Trouble is in Parliament it's like asking the turkeys to vote for additional Christmas lunches. If we ever get to it, it will be off the back of nearly balanced coalition who can afford to lose a few without a large minority party (e.g. say the Conservatives, most probably!) being able to block it.

And then I guess it'd have to go to a Referendum since it's such a fundamental change, and we all know how that turned out last time!

Mind you, I also think it should be a criminal offence to lie to the House of Commons (and Lords, for that matter), or in any electoral or pre-referenda campaigns to the general public, and once convicted it ought to disbar the convict from public office for life. Prosecution should be a matter for the Police & CPS, and the Home Secretary/Minister for Justice etc. ought to be non-political appointments!

(You'd never guess I used to be a political moderate, would you?)
May 2022
9:35am, 31 May 2022
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Johnny Blaze
Nobody knows how it might go but see above. Every day he is in office damages us even more. Tory MPs need to put their big boy pants on and kick him out.
May 2022
9:39am, 31 May 2022
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3M (aka MarkyMarkMark)
I was pleasantly surprised that my "own" Conservative MP (Julian Sturdy) actually went on record as saying he thinks Johnson ought to resign. It's rare I agree with him about much, but.... juliansturdy.co.uk

He's been a pretty staunch Party Man to date. Maybe we've just found his own red line? (or is it a blue line ;-) ).
May 2022
9:43am, 31 May 2022
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paulcook
Mind you, I also think it should be a criminal offence to lie to the House of Commons (and Lords, for that matter)


Agree. I’m astonished it’s not treated as perjury and therefore already an offence.

Though on current form Johnson would be more likely to repeal such an offence anyway.
May 2022
1:04pm, 31 May 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
We're up to 40 now according to BBC, who have no confidence in Johnson.

Anyone got any comments on my "A No Confidence vote that he wins, even if only marginally, is actually GOOD for Johnson" assertion above?!

So he's here 'til 2023 at least...? :-) G

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