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Feb 2020
9:23am, 25 Feb 2020
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DeeGee
I'm quite keen to know where in Yorkshire that tea is grown ;-)
Feb 2020
9:36am, 25 Feb 2020
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Chrisull
Given it's cheap , (like Cornish Tea), then it won't be grown in England. The Cornish tea that is actually grown in Cornwall (Tregothnan tea) costs an absolute fortune. But hey after Brexit comes into effect at the end of this year, we can do much more of this growing our own and selling/buying at exorbitant prices as much of the incoming produce from the EU (dairy etc) will cost the same.

And hats off to the EU today - opening salvo - chlorinated chicken not allowed if you want a trade deal with us:

theguardian.com

There may be trouble ahead says IDS about the "easiest ever deal".
Feb 2020
10:22am, 25 Feb 2020
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DeeGee
Do you mean to say that we can import goods from countries outside the European Union which undercut our own locally produced produce?

You'll be telling me next that we fly frozen lamb half way round to our tables when we've got thousands of sheep up on the hills all over the country living on our verdant pasture.

I thought that because we were in the EU we were only allowed to have Bulgarian goods undercutting ours.

Or is it maybe about the foreigners coming to live here?
Feb 2020
10:23am, 25 Feb 2020
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DeeGee
*half way round the world
Feb 2020
10:56am, 25 Feb 2020
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richmac
It's amazing, I can drive to Oldham (i wouldn't but I *could*) and buy tea in eerily similar boxes Blue lines not Orange and 'Lancashire' instead of 'Yorkshire' written on it.
Feb 2020
10:56am, 25 Feb 2020
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Fellrunning
It's not frozen it's refrigerated, and it comes by ship.
Feb 2020
11:24am, 25 Feb 2020
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DeeGee
Cheers FR. I heard that it has a smaller carbon footprint than locally reared lamb due to the relative intensiveness of the farming methonds in the UK vs NZ. Do you reckon that's feasible?
jda
Feb 2020
12:14pm, 25 Feb 2020
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jda
Some of these carbon footprint estimates are very dependent on assumptions. I think More or Less covered this not so long ago. A major factor is whether the land has had drainage improved eg was it a peat bog originally? In which case it could lose a huge amount of carbon (though MoL did debunk the most extreme estimates which had been bandied about that a leg of lamb was worse than flying to NY or something like that).
Feb 2020
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Johnny Blaze
I definitely recall a Grauniad article which said that. At the time I thought it was bollocks, although I did not have any scientific basis for stating that. Good to see it was confirmed. Probably a piece of Monbiot apoplexy.

I found it...

theguardian.com
Feb 2020
1:50pm, 25 Feb 2020
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Johnny Blaze
I'm completely dumbfounded by the statement that 1 kg of Lamb produces 749 kg of CO2 and I really can't be arsed looking at why, other than to say he makes practically no effort to explain why.

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