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Dec 2019
10:32am, 24 Dec 2019
9,830 posts
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Joopsy
A lot of people like Keir Starmer and see him as a credible candidate WS. You may not like him and thats fine, but a lot of people do.
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Dec 2019
10:35am, 24 Dec 2019
25,099 posts
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Wriggling Snake
Yes possibly clouded view, I would still not say a lot though.
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Dec 2019
10:49am, 24 Dec 2019
9,341 posts
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rf_fozzy
Given that outside those engaged in politics (i.e. most people on this thread) the vast majority of people don't know anything about *any* of the candidates for Labour leader.
So, WS is right, that not many people like them, but not for the reason he thinks - because they are unknown to the general public.
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Dec 2019
11:05am, 24 Dec 2019
3,687 posts
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run free
Maybe they should start writing for a newspaper...
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Dec 2019
11:48am, 24 Dec 2019
15,647 posts
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Chrisull
It will take 3 or 4 years for them to get that recognition.
Murdoch is about to ramp up his hate campaign for Keir , because of Leveson, so his recognition might be on the up.
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Dec 2019
12:20pm, 24 Dec 2019
1,980 posts
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Canute
Stander
Thanks for the good wishes. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you.
When you return I would be interested if you could point out which of the opinions expressed here are ‘wrong’. I would be even more delighted if you could tell us any of the things about Brexit that are right.
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Dec 2019
12:23pm, 24 Dec 2019
2,415 posts
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Fellrunning
Notwithstanding goodwill to all men. I seriously wonder why you guys even bother.....
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Dec 2019
12:26pm, 24 Dec 2019
25,104 posts
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Wriggling Snake
That's not quote right fozzy, some people know who he is, some labour voters too, he's the guy who kept popping up on telly and saying something ever so slightly different to Corbyn as regards anything, but especially Europe and probably is a double edged sword. He showed the divisions, but at least some may recognize him, possibly importantly, as 'not Corbyn-like'.
If I were him, I'd miss this one out and have a go after the next electoral humiliation.
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Dec 2019
12:31pm, 24 Dec 2019
2,526 posts
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OTannenbaumMike
It's odd that I have enjoyed reading the thread more since the election, despite my sadness at the result. Some very thoughtful posts that challenge my thinking and give much food for thought. Thanks. (you know who you are...)
Merry Christmas too all of you.
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Dec 2019
1:52pm, 24 Dec 2019
8,331 posts
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simbil
Yep, merry Xmas 
Not sure about any of the labour runners but they have time to put across their case and get themselves known.
The new direction needs to be pro ordinary people, pro business and have some patriotism to win back the ones that negative Corbynism has driven away.
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