Moraghan Training - Stevie G - RW thread

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8 Aug
1:58pm, 8 Aug 2024
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LBAC Si
@TippTop Better, although now being interrupted by chesty hayfever stuff!

Glad to see the new meds are helping.
9 Aug
2:12pm, 9 Aug 2024
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LBAC Si
12 x 300 last night, last proper hard session really as have a mile race next Thursday

50/49/49/48/48/47/48/48/48/47/46/46.

Bit breezy & wearing my Tak 8's - so happy enough
10 Aug
2:31pm, 10 Aug 2024
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stevieg
You'll soon get back TT, and no i wouldn't fancy some of those other sessions, there's a reason that geezer was elite and for shorter stuff.

Usual SC, usual :-)

Club pairs relay on Thursday then. I count it as a race as it properly has results, medal, timings etc, but I won't do as a separate blog for this one.

Just a brief report instead.

Teamed up with my old mate, whom I've come 2-4th with many a time here.

Great event put on my old/current 2nd claim club Dashers. Basically a race version of a training session, but you each run a km, until you've done 5 each.

Nice grassy loop, albeit some bits rougher than others, but lovely long recoveries so you can gun it a bit harder than usual.

Overcast and a bit of rain which was unusual. Very similar to the Murder Mile, in it being the first time I've done the event in anything less than warmish sort of usual summer conditions.

Synched up with working in the office, so I could make the 15min drive over easier, and wore the Dashers vest again for the first time in a while.

There were a couple of our younguns forming a team, plus a strong Maidy team. Plus loads of other well known local faces.
But me and relay partner would be a decent force in this one, even if we had already half expected to lose to a junior team featuring a 15 year old girl who is something like 3rd in the 3k rankings in the UK, and is something like 20secs quicker than me over 5k this year.

The thing that is always key to remember here though, is the order can change dramatically after lap 1, as you find some runners have a much slower partner, or have utterly gubbed themselves after a too fast lap 1 :-)

Therefore the first 200m is carnage. I'm about 6th as we pile off, level with some kid about half my height and 1/3 of my age!

Someone next to me is breathing soooo heavily it's clear they've utterly gone too hard, as is a Penn runner I recognise as being maybe a 20min 5k guy?

15 year old junior is doing what she did last year, off very hard for half a lap, then we turn a bend and it gets a little windy.

I take the chance to push on a little, and eventually take us in 2nd, behind our Dashers hot shot combo.

Partner brings us back 6th after lap 2, but we eventually weedle the overdoers out, and long story short, saw it in for 3rd place, a nice podium.

3437 or so, so 1718 each if we were level, but I expect i was probably a bit quicker than my partner, though it's hard to tell, as you're more concerned with making the handoff then taking exact splits. I also tend to leave the watch running rather than stop it, so the moving time walking adds in, then you set it to "race" and end up with 10xx or so pace :-)

He had 17.40 on his moving time, but again, depends on exact stop starts/walks.

We had a decent margin ahead to 1st and 2nd teams, but also a comfy 17secs or so back to 4th.

Great evening after, with loads of chat with assorted local club pals, little drink (non alc!) and hanging about for the awards, which in fairness were 1st in a category but a mention to podiums :-)

By the time I'd dropped my pal home, nipped back to Slough to get the work gear and got home, eaten and sorted, it was midnight.
Was so glad I'd booked Friday off work!
10 Aug
2:38pm, 10 Aug 2024
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stevieg
Winning 2 teams had a fairly close battle, young pair from our club, and 2 Maidenheaders.
Team in 4th were a couple from Maidenhead too.
Junior winners featuring the club's star 15 year old down in 8th, 40secs ahead of the next junior team (males), but 2mins behind us this year, after 1min behind last year. We've held on another year at least!1
12 Aug
2:19pm, 12 Aug 2024
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LBAC Si
Quiet on here @stevieg relays sounded fun - good to do something different isn't it.

My weekend - down to Poole to see the folks, gave Poole Parkrun a bit of a bash, ended up 4th in 16.40. Basically ran on my own most of it, really hard after Thursday and warm & muggy

Sunday - meandering 8 miles to the beach with Ollie.

Sweaty 5 this morning.
13 Aug
5:30pm, 13 Aug 2024
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philip_m_jones
I had a lovely run through the Chiltern Hills this morning: got out at about 10:30 just when the sun was starting to heat up and the woods were full of the smells of bracken and flowers. The doctor has put me on a steroid nasal spray which definitely helps with the phlegm issue I was shaving but I'm waiting for an appointment for the asthma clinic to see why I am old and slow and not just old.
14 Aug
12:57pm, 14 Aug 2024
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Sorequads
Been a wee while since the last post.

Poole a renowned fast course, @LBAC Si ? Assume so with 16:40 giving you fourth.

Good to still have a positive relationship with the old club and get out at the relays, @stevieg. Solid effort from you.

I have a place for Abo now, @TippTop so hope to see you there!

Have gone 80 then 76M the last two weeks, so laying a solid foundation of miles early in this 12 week marathon block.

Tried some 2 x 4M MP sections in my long run last week. Nowhere near really with about 7m/m average. Combo of heat and a bit too much of a jump for a first 20 as well.

Workout on Monday with 3 x 15 mins (3) a touch quicker than MP. 6:42, 34, 38. Which is pleasing if it was closer to MP than HMP but slightly hard to judge in the heat.

Planning 2h45 slow to steady later today.
14 Aug
1:41pm, 14 Aug 2024
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LBAC Si
@Sorequads Yep, pretty good course - got my PB of 15.52 there (many years ago).

Winner did about that, was 3rd in the age grade - 1st was a VW85 in 34.xx and a VW65 in 24 mins.

Good mileage there!
15 Aug
7:04am, 15 Aug 2024
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philip_m_jones
Sorequads wrote:Combo of heat and a bit too much of a jump for a first 20 as well.


I used to do a two-stage marathon prep. The first stage would start after the Cabbage Patch 10 at the end of October and add a mile a week to the longest run so I'd go from 13 to 20 through November and December. The second stage was then the conventional 12 to 16 weeks from the New Year to a spring marathon.

The runs towards the end of December when I was doing 18 or 19 and it would have been easy to add a few and get to 20 and be done felt like key sessions.
16 Aug
8:49am, 16 Aug 2024
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Sorequads
Sensible progression that would be, @philip_m_jones.

I’ve had a bit of a random progression with the (awful) Boston Lincs marathon at the end of April, Malvern Midsummer 29.5M mid June but nothing above 13 or so until two weeks ago.

22M on Wednesday eve. Felt pretty good out on the canal, got a bit tired second half but to be expected, I guess. 7:47 average with 450ft ascent.

No attempts at effort in there. Nice to have no pressure, but it does feel a long way to ‘just run’.

About This Thread

Maintained by stevieg
Hi there - this thread started in 2010 over on RW and started as an improvement thread for myself under Moraghan's coaching, through to more of a general collaboration tool and place to share training and long winded race reports.

Thanks to the fetch community for allowing us to move over, and we'd welcome loads of new contributors adding to the thread, as we were definitely running on empty with a small bunch of posters near the end!

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