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Mar 2023
5:18pm, 23 Mar 2023
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tipsku
Oh wow, what a health scare. I'm glad that you got away with limited damage. It's great that they let you exercise - MAF is certainly a great start.

I got back into running with MAF after thyroid surgery. I had to walk bits when I started; just be patient and stick with the conservative limits first. Good luck with your return to running.
Mar 2023
9:13am, 24 Mar 2023
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steve45
Glad that you are on the road to a good recovery J23 after that scare.
It was my younger brother's heart attack in March 2022 and my waning running ability that prompted me to get my heart checked out, family heart issues were there too. I had two full scans which showed I was near enough ok but put on statins as a precaution.
Despite knowing my heart is ok and no arterial disease or valvular problems I still struggle to run! During the scan though there was some lung damage/collapse seen in both lungs . Could be post covid but it will never really be known. I'm aiming to have a chest x ray during the spring to find out a bit more

In the meantime I'm on a walk/run schedule whilst monitoring my HR based on my last maximum HR test in March 2022.

Hope your progress continues J2R.
Mar 2023
11:25am, 24 Mar 2023
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Chrisull
Hope you're back to full speed soon J2R, we've missed your wisdom across several threads. Sounds like a super low Maffe will be a quite a challenge (any kind of hill will be walking pace I'm guessing?), but it's better than no running at all definitely!
J2R
Mar 2023
12:09pm, 24 Mar 2023
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J2R
Thanks all!

Daz Love, no, it's a bit of a mystery why I had atherosclerosis considering I was doing most things right, but the best guess is that it's genetic - my father had angina in his 60s, although he didn't have a heart attack as such. I've probably inherited a tendency to furring of the arteries. I do wonder about Covid, too (and it's interesting to read what steve45 says), although I have no evidence to suggest it was the culprit.

Chrisull, probably shouldn't be too much of a challenge, considering the beta blockers bring my heart rate down by maybe 10-15 bpm for the same effort. I've managed to do slow jogs up gentle hills without going over the 111, but it doesn't matter if I have to walk from time to time.
Mar 2023
12:15pm, 24 Mar 2023
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Garfield
Just catching up and glad you're recovering well J2R.
Mar 2023
12:43pm, 24 Mar 2023
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Canute
Unfortunately, extensive endurance training does not protect against coronary atheroma. The evidence is still debated, but the majority of recent studies show an association between extensive endurance training and increased atheroma. The most recently published is the Master@Heart Study. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
That study found that lifelong endurance athletes had more coronary plaques, including more non-calcified plaques in proximal segments, than fit and healthy individuals with a similarly low cardiovascular risk profile.

On balance, the benefits of exercise outweigh the risks except perhaps at the most extreme level, Nonetheless, as I read the evidence, even for recreational athletes, the most sensible thing is to always build up training load gradually.
Mar 2023
1:00pm, 24 Mar 2023
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Canute
J2R I should also say I am very sorry to hear of your heart attack. I agree that a substantial amount of low intensity exercise is your best option for recovery. I also agree genetics plays a big role in risk. I myself have a bad family history, but nonetheless I plan to keep running regularly for as long a possible.
J2R
Mar 2023
1:26pm, 24 Mar 2023
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J2R
Thanks, Canute. That study comes as something of a surprise, I have to say!
Mar 2023
1:30pm, 24 Mar 2023
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Brunski
Just adding my best wishes for J2R, sounds like you’ve been well looked after and hopefully the new programme allows you to continue your running and get back to health. Take care.
Mar 2023
2:04pm, 24 Mar 2023
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Chrisull
Interesting they differentiate between lifelong and late onset (30+) endurance athletes I count as a late onset. That doesn't seem to carry quite the same risk if I read it right?

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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