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Welshpoppy
Welshpoppy
Feb 2023
6:33pm, 6 Feb 2023
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I concur steve45 Steve Jones was a great running kept it simple and met the great man a few times.
Dvorak
Dvorak
Feb 2023
6:37pm, 6 Feb 2023
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I wouldn't expect that to happen, although it's not something I've given particular thought to. My notion is that you'd have to be pretty far from the centre of the curve before it became a factor in itself.
Dave A
Dave A
Mar 2023
11:41am, 9 Mar 2023
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Morning. I asked a few months ago but didn’t get an answer.

Can anyone recommend a decent source of information , online or book, to assist with HR training?
larkim
larkim
Mar 2023
12:39pm, 9 Mar 2023
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Not really an answer for you, but are you asking for guidance on how you should use HR to guide training, or how you should train to "improve" heart rate?

Fundamentally I suppose it's a sort of MAF type training where the values for HR dictate the pace that training is done at vs training where benchmarks from race paces are the primary driver for the paces that training is done at.

philmaffetone.com would be a decent starting point for the MAF stuff I guess?
Daz Love
Daz Love
Mar 2023
12:43pm, 9 Mar 2023
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Also have the HADD thread that has links to that method

fetcheveryone.com/forum/hadd-s-approach-to-distance-running-31192/
Dave A
Dave A
Mar 2023
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Both.
Dave A
Dave A
Mar 2023
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I’ve just been re-reading some of the Hadd thread.
Dave A
Dave A
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I’ve been HR training since October. Using WHR as my guide, trying to run within zone 2.
I’ve seen improvements in pace within the zone.
What I’m after now is looking at what I can do and how I can do it in order to improve further.
Dave A
Dave A
Mar 2023
1:03pm, 9 Mar 2023
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I could pay a coach, but I’m a tight git. Next step is to read about it, test, work out what works for me.
Brunski
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Mar 2023
1:11pm, 9 Mar 2023
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Dave A I'd suggest accumulating volume is the main bonus of zone 2 training, how many miles a week have you built up to?

It looks like you have a 50 mile ultra in the plan, so I'd probably just continue building mileage in zone 2. If you're looking at improving your paces maybe add in one or 2 quality sessions like increasing length blocks of Tempo/Threshold running or simply ending a couple runs a week with 30 second strides.

For the ultra I'd say you're best off building that zone 2 volume, especially if the paces are improving. If you start to see them plateau then mix it up a bit.

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

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"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach
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