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Jul 2020
3:07pm, 4 Jul 2020
88 posts
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Big_G
Just as a bit of a comparison I did an all out effort for a 5k yesterday and mine peaked at 189. But when I did a hill reps test 2 or 3 years ago (P&D have the method that Gobi mentioned) it peaked at 192. I then added 3 to that (which is what P&D mentions) as I was still standing at the finish, and so call mine 195.
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Jul 2020
3:10pm, 4 Jul 2020
1,486 posts
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TBR (TheBeardRunner)
I should really do the 30 minutes lactate threshold test but wondered if possible to use the 5k effort today. It was on a flat loop and tried to keep a consistent effort with a final effort
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Jul 2020
3:12pm, 4 Jul 2020
8,903 posts
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chunkywizard
Add 3 to the end? I would only use what I’ve seen, and also as Gobi says, remove any out-liers. Also, it will change over time so you probably need to reassess every year. I have dropped a few beats as I’ve got older.
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Jul 2020
3:15pm, 4 Jul 2020
89 posts
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Big_G
Ha, I thought someone may question that. I double checked the book before I posted and they say, I quote, "...your heart rate should be within two or three beats of maximum by the end of the third repeat".
I did a test 2 or 3 years ago and also did one August last year and it was exactly the same.
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Jul 2020
3:21pm, 4 Jul 2020
20,120 posts
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Dvorak
The short version of my own max hr experience: after seeing 189 on a treadmill test, and 192 in the wild (hot day, uphill), I was trying to keep up with faster runners, the end of a maybe a 20 minute section being a long drag uphill. At the end, I saw 196 BPM and had to lie down for a few minutes on a sparkly November pavement.
If you don't think you would have lain down on a November pavement after your test, you might add on 3-5 BPM to your reading 
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Jul 2020
3:24pm, 4 Jul 2020
90 posts
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Big_G
Dvorak, yes, that was my viewpoint. I was still upright so hadn't tried hard enough.
Here is the quote from the book.
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Jul 2020
3:32pm, 4 Jul 2020
1,487 posts
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TBR (TheBeardRunner)
Does anyone use the zones calculated by the 8020 endurance website using lactate threshold?
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Jul 2020
3:38pm, 4 Jul 2020
30,387 posts
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SPR
I haven't seen anyone discuss them here.
If you're using a plan by them then you should probably use their zones. HR is really a tool, not a training method.
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Jul 2020
3:41pm, 4 Jul 2020
91 posts
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Big_G
TBR, sorry, can't help with that.
You guys got me wondering. It was actually October 2016 I did the max HR test the first time (so I was wrong with my 2 or 3 years ago...time flies!) and August 2019 the second time, on the same course. It's not something I particularly want to repeat.....eurgh!
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Jul 2020
7:02pm, 4 Jul 2020
70,669 posts
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Gobi
Never adding to the number , madness .....
Everyone to their own approach
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