Heart rate
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Jun 2017
8:47pm, 30 Jun 2017
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Badger
I suspect there's a genetic component to how knackered you get... I usually slow down badly, but enough training and I don't - my best was 2 minutes slower over the second half of a 4.05, which isn't a big difference, and my legs felt strong enough to run the whole way. I'd been told the previous week by a rather self-important academic that ha ha ha I'm sorry the training won't help, you're clearly not genetically cut out for marathons. (I was an academic and wasn't that self important, before anyone makes the obvious comment  ) Rather enjoyed proving him wrong. Generally my training volume versus result is in line with the middle of the performance range on here (more is definitely better), but there are people who do much better on less logged training (emphasise logged), and others who do worse on more. Anyway, will also be interested to read this. |
Jun 2017
9:06pm, 30 Jun 2017
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J2R
Badger, a comment like that would be the best kind of last-minute training boost you could get! I'm sure I'd knock a big chunk of time off my PB if someone self-important said that to me. Like you, I feel that if I'm trained properly and watch my pacing I can avoid slowing down too much in the second half. For my marathon PB, the second half was 50 seconds slower than the first, and that was partly deliberate, in that I'd set off a little too fast and settled down after the first 2-3 miles to a pace I stuck to for the rest of the race. I suspect I am genetically suited to distance running, though. |
Jul 2017
10:55am, 2 Jul 2017
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DMZ
Nice one Badger! In my one and only marathon to date I did a negative split with a good finish, so clearly I have the right genes Anyone here monitor their HRV? |
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Jul 2017
7:11pm, 2 Jul 2017
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J2R
I spent some time monitoring my HRV last year and found it very interesting and informative. Unfortunately my latest Android phone doesn't work with ANT+ so I can't use my normal HRM strap, so I've got out of the habit of using it. I definitely found an agreement between HRV and stress levels. It provided some useful information for my training, for example helping me determine when a hard session would be a good idea or otherwise.
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Jul 2017
12:58pm, 3 Jul 2017
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DMZ
That's interesting J2R. For several months, including over marathon training last summer/autumn, I monitored mine using an app on the Garmin connect IQ store called HRV, that worked from my watch. It did go up with my fitness (and down when I was knackered) and I thought it was interesting. Having just upgraded to a new watch (forerunner 935) the HRV app no longer works as the developer has abandoned it. But (on Google play) I found the Elite HRV app which works on my phone - which I have discovered does work with ANT+ and connects to my strap. So I'm going to start monitoring again our of curiosity. Only problem is I'm out of the habit, so I jump out of bed and then 30 minutes into my early morning run I think "Oh I should have taken my HRV when I woke up..." |
Jul 2017
1:13pm, 3 Jul 2017
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larkim
Has anyone paid for "proper" heart rate / metabolism / lactate threshold testing to be conducted on them? Wife is after suggestions for a birthday present (for me) and I'm curious about these things as to get an understanding of my physiology which is something other than my educated guesses. Not too far away from me there's a place that does the following:- Metabolic efficiency - theendurancestore.com Lactate threshold - theendurancestore.com VO2 max test - theendurancestore.com I'm interested in anyone's experience of these things, suggestions for alternative places to get them done (or indeed commendations for the place I've linked to), or complete and utter criticisms of these things being worth anything at all!! Thought the HR thread was a decent place where people might have some insight, but I might link other threads in here if there isn't much feedback. |
Jul 2017
1:26pm, 3 Jul 2017
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Bazoaxe
Boab & Tizer I think did that a few years back with interesting outcomes. Think it cost about £250
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Jul 2017
1:30pm, 3 Jul 2017
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K5 Gus
Larks, I seem to recall Tizer talking on the sub 3:15 thread about getting some/all of these tests done 2 or 3 years back at Heriot Watt Uni in Edinburgh. Haven't seen him posting much recently, but he may still be reading. You could try an fmail to him in a few days if you don't get any replies.
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Jul 2017
1:30pm, 3 Jul 2017
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K5 Gus
Ah, cross post with Baz
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Jul 2017
1:53pm, 3 Jul 2017
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larkim
Ta both! Edinburgh might be a bit far!
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