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sallykate
sallykate
Apr 2009
9:39pm, 11 Apr 2009
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sallykate
Looking good Lizzie!

Is that going to be your standard run to check progress? I had a route I ran each week to see whether I was improving -- and I did notice some improvement over a few weeks at the beginning of the year. (I took my eye off HR training with a couple of halves coming up but am back on it now.)
Gobi
Gobi
Apr 2009
8:00am, 12 Apr 2009
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Gobi
Lizzie

remember to be patient, these things take time and even as you make progress sometimes the stats will go wrong due to life stresses.

Nice one

G
Lizzie W
Lizzie W
Apr 2009
8:35am, 12 Apr 2009
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Lizzie W
Thanks G
chirunner
chirunner
Apr 2009
8:51am, 12 Apr 2009
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chirunner
sheep farming the ultimate in LSR training!
digg.com
Apr 2009
9:12am, 12 Apr 2009
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Amazing :-)
icemaiden
icemaiden
Apr 2009
7:43pm, 18 Apr 2009
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icemaiden
Evening all! I've done a lot of my FLM preparation using 70% or below WHR and all through the training period (since Christmas 08) have seen diddly squat difference in my pace for this HR. But now I'm in a generous taper my runs are 1 minute quicker than I've ever done for 70% WHR - for example lots of training done at 11:40 mins/mile, pootling today at 10:40 mins/mile. I thought my Garmin was playing up when I ran the Oakley 20 2 weeks ago as it seemed to be jumping around all over the place so I'm ignoring that it thinks I ran it at 63%. But more recent runs seem more reasonable for effort/pace/HR.

Question: After FLM when I work up my training mileage back to 30+ a week, will the pace for 70% go back to 11:40 or might I see it staying at 10:40 ish? How much does workload affect overall 70% pace?

Thanks!
Big Al Widepants
Big Al Widepants
Apr 2009
8:03pm, 18 Apr 2009
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Big Al Widepants
Well done Lizzie
hellen
hellen
Apr 2009
8:12pm, 18 Apr 2009
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hellen
Thats good new IM. Not sure the answer to your question but what I, and a few others found, was that after a marathon our 70% pace was back to where it was when we started and it took a while to get back to the new improved version.

I have made an interesting observation about HRM training and that is that although my 70% pace hasnt really improved a great deal I am getting some really good PBs at the mo. I have been doing HRM trianing for over 2 years now. Last week I knocked 4mins off my HM PB which was set in Dec and in Dec that was 3 mins off my previous PB. I also knocked 12mins off my 20mile race time.

The other thing I found interesting was that this time last year I did some MP runs which were grey area runs, they equated to low 160s which is late 70s%. The pace for these runs averaged aroudn 9.20/mile (which ended up being a bit fast for MP). Yesterday I did a similar run but HR was 159 and pace 8.48/mile. So, although my 70% pace hasnt changed much my grey area and race paces have started improving! There are a few things I have changed with my training which I think contribute to this improvement but I have been following the easy hard principle with easy days being sub 70%, infact my sub 70% have tended to be 65% and a bit slower than before rather than 69% which they used to be. But, when I have done a few that have been 69% the pace has been pretty similar to what it was before the PBs!!!
icemaiden
icemaiden
Apr 2009
8:29pm, 18 Apr 2009
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icemaiden
Hellen - that's what I'm hoping will happen to me too! Who knows if it's the HR training or the easy/hard principle but whatever, it seems to work! I haven't done much in the way of intervals for marathon training (or so it feels) but hoping the extra mileage will show benefits at the other distances!!! If I don't PB at all the other distances over the summer I will be back to moan! ;-)
Fenland Runner
Fenland Runner
Apr 2009
10:59am, 19 Apr 2009
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Fenland Runner
Lowest %WHR run - 3% better than a similar run 2 months ago ;-)

11.32 miles in 1 hour 48 minutes and 14 seconds at an average pace of 9:34 minutes per mile

63% WHR

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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