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Feb 2009
2:57pm, 18 Feb 2009
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Loca
Going back to the question of why some people might not get results or might take longer to get results; could the actual time spent running or mileage perhaps have a bearing. Would people running higher mileages and therefore spending more time training see improvements much quicker than those training less often?
It's just a thought I had and might not have any bearing but what do others think?
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Feb 2009
2:57pm, 18 Feb 2009
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eL Bee!
Jeremy - that is very laudable - just try to keep it in keeping with the flavour of the thread. That way people will benefit from your experiences, rather than simply reacting to any post you make with the equivalent of a "STFU"
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Feb 2009
3:01pm, 18 Feb 2009
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Velociraptor
Nelly, as someone who was doing quite high mileage when I had my flirtation with heart rate training, I'd suggest that the answer is "probably no". For me, HRM training led to no improvement whatsoever and I see it as just one tool that people can use to ensure that they develop an aerobic base before plunging into hard training.
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Feb 2009
3:02pm, 18 Feb 2009
7,751 posts
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Llamadance
Al, I don't agree it's like bullying. Huffman repeatedly fails to take into account the wishes of other people on what is essentially a self-regulating forum. If he doesn't listen then all that's left is for people to repeat their wishes, usually in stronger terms. Maybe Fetch should have a word with him.
The worry is that, like El Bee says, any meaningful input from him is lost because we become conditioned to ignoring it. But, tbf, Huffman has been told that and doesn't listen or care.
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Feb 2009
3:13pm, 18 Feb 2009
17,682 posts
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The danger here of course is that now nobody even dare mention that perhaps in some cases form issues could contribute to less than optimum results from using HRM training methods.
I know jeremy has been a pain in the arse at times BUT some people when trying to discover why things aren't working must at least discuss other possibilities. We don't want to get into a position where we attack anyone who mentions anything other than HRM training no do we?
As it is though I can see Girlie for one doesn't want to be bothered by the Posey, Efficient runnning bollox and that's her prerogative which of course is fine.
I would say that consistency is a key part of any training and yes, if you don't spend as much time running then expect to see any potential results later than other folk have who do higher mileage. That makes sense to me.
I think for some, HR training may not work for reasons that will probably never become clear.
I am NOT talking about Girlie here when I say this...
And then there are some people that really never believe anything and think they will always know better than the findings of people who have trained many hundreds of elite competitors using certain techniques.
I try stuff out and if it works it works...I always have an open mind.
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Feb 2009
3:30pm, 18 Feb 2009
4,772 posts
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Pammie
Open mind yes
And if you go back to the Hadd articles particularly those of us that rememer the Lets run threads it is ONE approach to distance running. There are many ways
Nelly thanks for asking that question i was thinking of that as well but was afraid to ask LOL
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Feb 2009
3:46pm, 18 Feb 2009
17,685 posts
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Hence my post on page 1113 Pammie 
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Feb 2009
3:52pm, 18 Feb 2009
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Mykey
Nelly-Girlie (merely as an example of someone for whom HR training has not worked) was training for NY marathon at the time so fairly high mileage.
If we awere all the same life would be soo dull...
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Feb 2009
4:14pm, 18 Feb 2009
2,056 posts
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Big Al Widepants
Yeah, I know what you mean Llams, and I think it would work better if each contributor had a wee think to themselves about what they could learn as well as what pearls they may want to share.
That and being careful not to let it degenerate into very personal slanging. If people aren't listening, then shouting it louder isn't going to be the best approach.
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Feb 2009
4:17pm, 18 Feb 2009
2,057 posts
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Big Al Widepants
Oh dear that came over very preachy. And I wasn't meaning you Llams. Aaargh. I just want to talk about HR training
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