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Mar 2024
7:18pm, 13 Mar 2024
16,685 posts
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jda
Wikipedia says "Before 1987, the head had to be kept above the water surface during the entire stroke."
Which seems quite recent for a major rule change that I'd had no idea about up to now! Not that I was much interested in swimming when younger.
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Mar 2024
7:21pm, 13 Mar 2024
1,762 posts
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Daz Love
Well done Nellers. Got me checking mine and I also with you. Never swam so much in my life and really enjoying it. (only positive to come from my current running injury)
I am even now starting to think about doing some 'sessions'!
I have only ever just swam lengths in my life. Any tips for a good starting session that wont cook me crazy!
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Mar 2024
7:21pm, 13 Mar 2024
1,266 posts
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CasB
Another one who had no idea that used to be a rule! Although our pool also has a lane in which it still seems to be in effect. We also have a chap in the fast lane who does a really quick bs, so next time he's there I shall see how submerged his head is!
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Mar 2024
7:26pm, 13 Mar 2024
42,395 posts
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Nellers
Daz: Have you got a Garmin to set sessions up on? It definitely makes it easier to keep track of what you're doing and where you are.
The first one I tried was:
300m easy warm up
100m/ 10 sec rest
150m/ 15 sec rest
200m/ 20 sec rest
150m/ 15 sec rest
100m/ 10 sec rest
100m easy/ 1 min rest
200m warm down
It's nice and simple and the short rests make it a challenge to push too hard too early.
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Mar 2024
7:27pm, 13 Mar 2024
1,267 posts
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CasB
X-post Daz (I'm also doing more swimming than ever and really enjoying it!). I got my first sets from the Swim Serpentine training guide which annoyingly they've taken down now, but it was a similar approach to running intervals - short quick stuff and longer slow stuff. GTN have some 30-minute sets on YouTube, I haven't tried them yet as I've started having coaching and it's basically all drills, but their other stuff I've used has been helpful so might be worth a look.
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Mar 2024
7:27pm, 13 Mar 2024
42,396 posts
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Nellers
On the Breaststroke thing I didn't know it was a rule but I'm pretty sure when I was learning to swim in the 70s we were at the very least putting the fast down in the water so the head was mostly under because it was more streamlined. I never got as far as competing though, much to my parents' disappointment.
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Mar 2024
8:57pm, 13 Mar 2024
67,148 posts
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LindsD
Oh definitely Nellers. That's not what I meant. Face fully in.
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Mar 2024
9:39pm, 13 Mar 2024
35,398 posts
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Sushi.
I thought the head rule had changed more recently than ‘87 in bs.
I also think that ‘87 can’t possibly be almost 40 yrs ago!
Just back from coached session. Not been swimming much recently so quite pleased that I didn’t drown.
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Mar 2024
11:32am, 14 Mar 2024
1,763 posts
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Daz Love
Thanks Nellers
I do have a Garmin Swim however (wait for it) screen got water damaged!
I can probably remember that 100/150/200/150/100 with 300 either end (the rest is easy to remember as 10% of distance I have just done!) Will give a crack.
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Mar 2024
11:37am, 14 Mar 2024
42,401 posts
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Nellers
Good luck with it, Daz.
I've been watching some more YouTube over the last few days and thinking about trying to get the "high Elbow" thing going on a bit more. I spent some of my swim this morning trying to work on that and found that while I was concentrating on my arm position I was forgetting to breathe, which didn't help!
Anyway, again it's a thing that makes a lot of sense in terms of what you'd do why you'd do it and how it's done but I found it hard to tell if I was actually doing it!
Finished the swim off with a couple of lengths of "fist drill" (Behave!) where you try to swim with your hand in a fist so the only "paddle" you've got is your forearm. This makes it more obvious whether you're actually using the forearm correctly.
Short answer: I'm not unless I'm really thinking about it, and not having my hands open meant I was sometimes struggling to rotate enough to breathe!
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